Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:38:47 -0700
Reply-To: Zolly <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
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From: Zolly <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Fixed...?Re: 40 minutes drive and then cuts out.
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Yup, Ken was right about it has to be checked when the engine stops. That's
why I had the fuel press. gauge on. I suspected the voltage delivery to the
pump. So, I changed the relays, the computer. Nothing. Then I gave
voltage straight from the battery and the pump would not work. I waited
until it cooled down and then it worked. So it was the pump working
intermittently. It's a miracle how long they last though.
Thanks for the help.
Zoltan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fixed...?Re: 40 minutes drive and then cuts out.
>I believe Ken said ignition or fuel pump.
>
> it's amazing how long those fuel pumps last.
> for 'won't run, wait a while, runs again' ..
> I think about fuel delivery out of the fuel tank being restricted or
> clogged
> if I don't find something else.
>
> I'm driving with a fuel pressure gauge up front in an 84 westy ..
> that van holds 30 psi for hours after shut off.
> was down to 10 psi overnight.
> one fuel pump cycle brought it up to 20psi.
> another cycle brought it up to 30 psi.
>
> I have a different distrbutor in, seems to be working fine.
> for 'wont' start' I common find igntion not working ..
> commonly on 1.9's even, I'd say.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zolly" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 3:48 PM
> Subject: Fixed...?Re: 40 minutes drive and then cuts out.
>
>
>>I think, I have fixed it. Finally. After working on this for days.
>> When it stopped the last time, I applied direct voltage to the fuel pump.
>> And it did not run (the bugger). Why. Why it ran before and not later.
>> It
>> was a little hot too. So, I think, it is something to do with the
>> brushes
>> inside the pump, being too old, worn down. I had similar thing with a
>> starter once.
>> Now the van is running for the last 15 minutes and it still needs to run
>> for
>> a long time for me to say it's good.
>> Thanks for all the great guesses guys. However, none was the one.
>> So, I hope all is well now.
>> Zoltan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Zolly" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: 40 minutes drive and then cuts out.
>>
>>
>>> I'm having it idle at this time. Don't want to be stuck in traffic and
>>> be
>>> clueless on the freeway. I have a fuel gauge attached to see if the
>>> fuel
>>> delivery is interruped or not.
>>> Zoltan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 40 minutes drive and then cuts out.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> You need to check for fuel pressure, and spark when the problem is
>>>> happening. One or the other is probably causing it and it should show
>>>> up when the event happens. If you wait to check these when it cools off
>>>> then you will miss finding the culprit. Could be either.
>>>
>>>
>>> And likely you're doing this Zoltan, but I'd suggest using the same
>>> route/distance etc. each time you test drive and trouble shoot. This
>>> helped me in trouble shooting my swap.
>>>
>>> Neil.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"
>>>
>>> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
>>>
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