Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:25:53 -0700
Reply-To: dylan <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
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From: dylan <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
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I remove the old useless cable. Why keep it?
I replace them with cables exclusively from 90 or 91 vans that had the dual
battery setup stock.
I test all compnents before doing anyhting.
If you want new cable...be prepared to pay handsomely.
Welding supply has what you need.
FYI, 1.9 starters are 3/4 hp vs. 1 hp for the 2.1s.
Watch it on rebuilds.
They don't differentiate between the two any longer.
I send all 3/4 horse starters back and don't even mess with them.
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From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 8:49:20 PM
Subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
So if you run a new cable, you just run it strait from the battery to the
starter?
Do you remove the old one? Does the old one go exclusively from the battery
strait to the charger?
So, you would get a piece of wire, with the same battery post clamp on one
end? (And the eye on the other).
-Craig
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had similar problems on my 2.1. My solution, which may or may not work
> for you, was to run parallel cables at the following locations.
> Battery <----------------------------> starter ~ 11 feet
> Front Transmission <---------> Body ~ 8 inches (make sure not to connect
> just to the transmission mount bolts as this is electrically insulated from
> the rest of the engine/transmission assembly by the rubber mount)
> Alternator <---------> Starter ~2.5 feet
>
> All cables made from 2/0 purchased from welding supply and crimp connected
> to closed ring connectors found in the same supply store.
>
> My van starts with ZERO hesitation now and turns over super quick. Before
> I couldn't get it to turn over and jumping it would barely work.
>
> MIGHT be your whole problem or just PART of the problem. The other things
> mentioned about the brushes wearing out are also a likely culprit.
>
> -Ry
> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > So, my starter is a randomly picked, untested 1.9 starter that was in a
> > pile
> > of them some years ago.
> >
> > Lately, the bus simply won't start. I get great power to all the
> > accessories, the battery appears to be holding and charging just fine,
> but
> > the thing just won't turn over fast enough to be of any value. I've
> cleaned
> > all my grounds, I've tightened all my leads, and yet.... no dice.
> > Jumping the battery off another car no longer has any effect.
> >
> > I'm starting to think my starter is a bad egg. Any thoughts?
> > What type of symptoms would be expected from a failing starter....if
> other
> > than what I described?
> >
> > -Craig
> >
>
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