Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:04:53 -0700
Reply-To: dylan <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
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From: dylan <insyncro@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
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Cool, thats your method.
"Some conductivity" in a few more years will be no conductivity.
I remove the old and replace with new.
My vans and clients vans really appreciate the effort.
Reliability is the highest concern at my shop.
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From: Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com>
To: dylan <insyncro@yahoo.com>
Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 11:44:13 AM
Subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
the old cables are not "useless" they are still providing some conductivity, so
adding new cables to the old cables will be likely better than "new".
~$40 for all the cable to replace.
-Ry
http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:25 AM, dylan <insyncro@yahoo.com> wrote:
I remove the old useless cable. Why keep it?
>I replace them with cables exclusively from 90 or 91 vans that had the dual
>battery setup stock.
>I test all compnents before doing anyhting.
>
>If you want new cable...be prepared to pay handsomely.
>Welding supply has what you need.
>
>FYI, 1.9 starters are 3/4 hp vs. 1 hp for the 2.1s.
>Watch it on rebuilds.
>They don't differentiate between the two any longer.
>I send all 3/4 horse starters back and don't even mess with them.
>
>
>
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>________________________________
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>From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 8:49:20 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Symptoms of a bad starter?
>
>
>So if you run a new cable, you just run it strait from the battery to the
>starter?
>Do you remove the old one? Does the old one go exclusively from the battery
>strait to the charger?
>
>So, you would get a piece of wire, with the same battery post clamp on one
>end? (And the eye on the other).
>
>-Craig
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had similar problems on my 2.1. My solution, which may or may not work
>> for you, was to run parallel cables at the following locations.
>> Battery <----------------------------> starter ~ 11 feet
>> Front Transmission <---------> Body ~ 8 inches (make sure not to connect
>> just to the transmission mount bolts as this is electrically insulated from
>> the rest of the engine/transmission assembly by the rubber mount)
>> Alternator <---------> Starter ~2.5 feet
>>
>> All cables made from 2/0 purchased from welding supply and crimp connected
>> to closed ring connectors found in the same supply store.
>>
>> My van starts with ZERO hesitation now and turns over super quick. Before
>> I couldn't get it to turn over and jumping it would barely work.
>>
>> MIGHT be your whole problem or just PART of the problem. The other things
>> mentioned about the brushes wearing out are also a likely culprit.
>>
>> -Ry
>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > So, my starter is a randomly picked, untested 1.9 starter that was in a
>> > pile
>> > of them some years ago.
>> >
>> > Lately, the bus simply won't start. I get great power to all the
>> > accessories, the battery appears to be holding and charging just fine,
>> but
>> > the thing just won't turn over fast enough to be of any value. I've
>> cleaned
>> > all my grounds, I've tightened all my leads, and yet.... no dice.
>> > Jumping the battery off another car no longer has any effect.
>> >
>> > I'm starting to think my starter is a bad egg. Any thoughts?
>> > What type of symptoms would be expected from a failing starter....if
>> other
>> > than what I described?
>> >
>> > -Craig
>> >
>>
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