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Date:         Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:10:55 -0700
Reply-To:     BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Smartphones for Vanagoneers; was RE: CB
Comments: To: Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM>
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Jumpin' Syncrozophatz! I had no idea you had a wife.

I used my fruitphones for many things Vanagon related such as directions and mod duties.

BenT

Sent from my adroppleberry

On Jul 27, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Well, briefly: We had cable internet that was costing us around $60/month.

> The "unlimited" data plans for the phones are $30/month each (most providers > will be going to/offering cheaper capped plans as an alternative). I got my > phone for "free" for extending my contract (I planned to continue to use the > service anyway); we paid $20 for my wife's phone (same one, the Droid). The > minutes and texts are separate from the data plan and the costs remained the > same. Basically we have the same connectivity at the same cost with the only > practical exception being that we can't stream Netflix at the moment. > Netflix is making an app for that; I think Blockbuster already has one. > > > > I haven't paid for any apps at this point and I don't plan to. Many of the

> free ones are "ad supported" which means there's a tiny little ad at the > bottom you can safely ignore and barely see anyway. > > > > I had hundreds of ebooks and thousands of songs already that I can use on my > device. I can tether the laptop to it for internet when we travel (not > exactly kosher, but not specifically forbidden either). They have tethering > plans for additional costs, but an OS update is about to make every one of

> these particular phones a potential WiFi hotspot as well as making the > phones flash (video) capable, so the carriers are going to have to deal with > that somehow. Apparently a court ruling handed down today or yesterday make > it "legal" to jailbreak (modify) your phone. > > > > Getting back to Vanagons more or less; we've really struggled with > connectivity while traveling over the last couple of years. We got Boingo a

> couple of times, drove to distant McDonald's and that sort of crap. This > approach took care of that and added a whole bunch of usefulness all in one > shot, plus we don't have to buy a separate GPS device and so on. > > > > My wife said today "what did I do without this thing...?". Basically every

> time she thought of or remembered something she had to return to her > computer. Now she just pulls it out of her pocket and deals with it on the

> fly. You might think it would tend to make you waste more time but for us it > has condensed most of our computer time because we can just deal with things > as they come up. > > > > I guess I lied about "briefly" so before this goes any farther afield you > can pmail me or bring it up on Friday, tho I think how one uses the thing > while traveling and so on would be a legitimate subject. > > > > My Bentley is falling apart so I plan to scan it into a .pdf file and I'm > trying to work out how to get my Vanagon list archives onto the phone as > well (and the rescue list, and... and... and...). Can you imagine just > pulling all of that info out of your pocket if you're stuck someplace? Yeah > I'll have it on the laptop as well, but picture this: I'm on the ground > under the van on the side of the road at night, reading the archives on the > screen and using the "flashlight" app to fire the LED on the back of the > phone to illuminate the problem. I almost want to break down just to try it. > Almost. : ) > > > > Cya, > > Robert > > > > > > > > From: Don Hanson [mailto:dhanson928@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:53 PM > To: Robert Fisher > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > Subject: Re: CB > > > > Just curious for you smart phone type device users... How much does all > the bandwidth work out to use these devices? Do they charge you like a cell > phone for air time and minutes? How much does it cost to program or load > all the apps into them? Are they expensive to own and operate? Not dissin > anybody or any thing...just that it's a bit difficult to cost out what > people are paying to have these units in operation doing all the cool stuff > they do. Nobody I ask can actually give me a real answer...I guess it is > like driving a Hummer...if you have to ask how much fuel mileage it gets, > you can't afford one? > > > > I know my TV cable was about $40 a month at one time and now I pay over > $100 with 'substantial early termination fees' to have my dish network and

> DVR working...and the shows (now hundereds of bad ones) still mostly are > repeats and mostly suck...and they still have commercials in addition to my > 'subscription fee'...Is that like..."Buy this cool mobile device and get all > this cool functionality...after you pay for the air time, too and the > programs(Apps?), one by one, and each song you hear, book you read, etc etc? > > > > Have anything to do with Vanagons? Well I see people driving down the > road with mobile devices in use in vanagons and I see lots of messages here > on gerry@vanagon with the tagline..."Posted from my dingleberry device" or

> somesuch..I would like to be able to access the internet without > Wi-Fi...like while driving in reception areas and camped within a 3G-4G > whatever serviced geographic location...but not if I can't afford the gas to > get there because I spent my meager income on Apps and Airtime.. > Don Hanson


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