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Date:         Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:20:01 -0500
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: second newby question
Comments: To: "Peters, David Gerard" <dgp6@PITT.EDU>
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You might ask youself how serious the need for a Westy as compared to some other model of Vanagon. There are those configured as "weekender's", with interior fixtures only and no pop-top, and those with a poptop but no interior fixtures. The sell at lesser prices. And then there are the plain vanagons - GL series and others. I debated a long time about owning a Westy. I drove the Alaska Highway in my '85 GL, camped out all over the place with it. . I really liked that wide bed in back that the Westy configuration does not afford due to the cabinetry. I like the flexibility of use of space my current GL gives me. I have very nice curtains in my GL and my Carat, so privacy is ensured when stealth camping. I have no need for a refrigerator. I just take along a good cooler. Meals are sandwiches or if I'm ambitious - fresh salads etc - made from fresh ingredients packed in the cooler. I take along a camp stove or a hibachi for more serious cooking. As a side tent I set up my art show tent called an EZ-up. I locate it right next to my sliding door and let one of the side flaps fit over the top of the van to keep out the water if it rains. There is a mosquito net that can be hung from the inside of the tent's frame-work. Over the rear hatch opening I use a mosquito net that has a piece of bungee on it that fits around the rim to hold it in place. And, I use a hatch prop/lock which locks the hatch slightly open for cross ventilation, yet does not allow entry in the vehicle, unless the lock is turned and the prop/lock removed.

The point here being - there are many other vehicles which could sere well for camping. They don't say "I'm a camper" or "I'm an RV - by their outward appearance in the way a Westy does, but they can serve well, and don't cost near as much.as a Westy. Nor do they typically have the behind-the-cabinets rust-out that plague so many Westy's. Also - they aren't nearly as heavy as a Westfalia, with all it's cabinets, refrigerator, stove, sink and plumbing. By virtue of the weight they are slower to get off the mark, have greater difficulty in stopping, and the engine works harder pulling grades.

Westy's are nice - but there are other more affordable options that would serve as well.

Just my $0.02

John

John Rodgers Clayartist and Moldmaker 88'GL VW Bus Driver Chelsea, AL Http://www.moldhaus.com

On 7/30/2010 9:54 AM, Peters, David Gerard wrote: > Hi All > > Thanks for the many warm "welcomes". Still very much enjoying the list and learning stuff too! > > My Vanagon search is still ongoing. I am focused (after taking advice from many folks on this list) on a later model. > > Question: There is an ongoing ebay auction for restored Westy. It is out of my price range (almost 20k buy it now) but a statement in the auction description caught my eye and I would be interested to hear feedback from you guys. > > Specifically the seller sates..."If you buy an $8000 to $13,000 Westy, you will need to add up to $8000 in parts to make it reliable, and thats BEFORE you touch the engine or tranny! " > > Do you agree? Obviously it is possible but I'd be interested to hear thoughts based on real world experience. > > Thanks again > > Dave > >


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