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Date:         Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:08:25 -0400
Reply-To:     Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <0e4401cb381f$a40abd60$6401a8c0@PROSPERITY>
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Courtney, not you, Scott. I replied to all on the last thread posting.

-------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 8:04 PM To: "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Subject: Re: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(

> Mike, how would you know what vice grips I probably have. ? > I hate that cheap HF junk. > I didn't exress any difficulty with vice grips - I don't even get where > you're coming from. > I was talking about 'when vice grips won't cut it' .. > the next tactic above vice grips, kapeesh . > > a good vice grips should dig in at the teeth for sure. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net> > To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>; > <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-( > > >> Get a new pair of 'quality' vice-grips. I bet yours are old/ worn/ >> smooth jaws/ cheap HF ones. Use the ones that have a curved jaw with >> sharp teeth. Works every time. >> If they're slipping, they're the problem, not the bolt. I just removed >> my axles and had to use vice-grips on the outside of half of them! The >> cheap, worn ones slipped no matter how hard I clamped them! The good >> ones bit in so hard that they left tooth marks. >> Ymmv, >> Mike B. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> >> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:54 PM >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Subject: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-( >> >>> hi , >>> it's not 'taping with a hammer' on top of stuck cv joint screw.. >>> it's very sharp severe whacks, not 'thud' .. >>> but sharp whack. >>> with a short drift and good ball been hammer, >>> give it like 20 of those. >>> 10 might be enough ....of .really sharp hard whacks if using the chisel >>> method below. >>> for the screw whacking I use an old king pin for a drift.. >>> it's extra hard steel, really transfers the force. >>> >>> then with the chisel you're going to unscrew it in a circle with the >>> cold >>> chisel. >>> dig a hard notch in the top outer edge of the screw, aimed in the >>> unscrewing >>> direction. >>> >>> somethings it's hit the chisel 40 times.. >>> or much fewer if you're lucky ..and it'll unscrew finally. >>> then remove it with the vice grips. >>> >>> there's anohter pre-chisel trick, and that's to tighten the screw some >>> first, or if it won't unscrew, tighten it some if it will, that helps >>> them >>> unscrew nicely sometimes. >>> >>> the upgrade 12 point screws are better.. >>> need a special tool, but they are harder metal. >>> I've seen just one of those stripped out in hundreds of vanagons and cv >>> joints and screws... >>> and umpteen stripped out 6mm allen ones. >>> >>> scott >>> www.turbovans.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Courtney Hook" <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA> >>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:27 PM >>> Subject: Well so far it's beat me. >:-( >>> >>> >>> Alright, I've gotten every CV joint allen head out except for one on the >>> stub end. The AH PO obviously was a wanker, as there is NO way this >>> thing >>> wants to come out. He must have had the Incredible Hulk torque it up for >>> him. Did I mention that it already looked like he re-used a bolt that >>> was >>> somewhat ovaled instead of 6 sided!!Things I've tried so far after WD-40 >>> over the last few days, and tapping it with a hammer: >>> >>> 1) Quality Crafstman allen head socket and ratchet. No way, just spun >>> out. >>> 2) Vice Grips on outside - just spun around the bolt even though I >>> reefed >>> them on there as hard as I could, and checked I had clearance to spin >>> the >>> grips. No way. >>> 3) Took a cold chisel and ridged the outside circumference to get the >>> vice >>> grips to bite better instead of spinning. No way, still spun. :-( >>> 4) Threw a temper tantrum and spoke in tongues I learned in the Army. >>> Wife >>> not impressed. Me either. >>> >>> So what's number 5?? Get out my mig, and weld an allen wrench piece into >>> the >>> hole and use it as an "extension" Little worried about the grease, oil, >>> gas, >>> electronics about this one. >>> Thanks, >>> Courtney (Eyeing some Bud Limes right about now so I don't start >>> speaking in >>> tongues again) >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind, >>> and the ones who mind, don't matter. >> >


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