Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:08:25 -0400
Reply-To: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
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From: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
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Courtney, not you, Scott. I replied to all on the last thread posting.
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From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 8:04 PM
To: "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Subject: Re: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
> Mike, how would you know what vice grips I probably have. ?
> I hate that cheap HF junk.
> I didn't exress any difficulty with vice grips - I don't even get where
> you're coming from.
> I was talking about 'when vice grips won't cut it' ..
> the next tactic above vice grips, kapeesh .
>
> a good vice grips should dig in at the teeth for sure.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <mbucchino@charter.net>
> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>;
> <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>
>
>> Get a new pair of 'quality' vice-grips. I bet yours are old/ worn/
>> smooth jaws/ cheap HF ones. Use the ones that have a curved jaw with
>> sharp teeth. Works every time.
>> If they're slipping, they're the problem, not the bolt. I just removed
>> my axles and had to use vice-grips on the outside of half of them! The
>> cheap, worn ones slipped no matter how hard I clamped them! The good
>> ones bit in so hard that they left tooth marks.
>> Ymmv,
>> Mike B.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:54 PM
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>>
>>> hi ,
>>> it's not 'taping with a hammer' on top of stuck cv joint screw..
>>> it's very sharp severe whacks, not 'thud' ..
>>> but sharp whack.
>>> with a short drift and good ball been hammer,
>>> give it like 20 of those.
>>> 10 might be enough ....of .really sharp hard whacks if using the chisel
>>> method below.
>>> for the screw whacking I use an old king pin for a drift..
>>> it's extra hard steel, really transfers the force.
>>>
>>> then with the chisel you're going to unscrew it in a circle with the
>>> cold
>>> chisel.
>>> dig a hard notch in the top outer edge of the screw, aimed in the
>>> unscrewing
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> somethings it's hit the chisel 40 times..
>>> or much fewer if you're lucky ..and it'll unscrew finally.
>>> then remove it with the vice grips.
>>>
>>> there's anohter pre-chisel trick, and that's to tighten the screw some
>>> first, or if it won't unscrew, tighten it some if it will, that helps
>>> them
>>> unscrew nicely sometimes.
>>>
>>> the upgrade 12 point screws are better..
>>> need a special tool, but they are harder metal.
>>> I've seen just one of those stripped out in hundreds of vanagons and cv
>>> joints and screws...
>>> and umpteen stripped out 6mm allen ones.
>>>
>>> scott
>>> www.turbovans.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Courtney Hook" <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:27 PM
>>> Subject: Well so far it's beat me. >:-(
>>>
>>>
>>> Alright, I've gotten every CV joint allen head out except for one on the
>>> stub end. The AH PO obviously was a wanker, as there is NO way this
>>> thing
>>> wants to come out. He must have had the Incredible Hulk torque it up for
>>> him. Did I mention that it already looked like he re-used a bolt that
>>> was
>>> somewhat ovaled instead of 6 sided!!Things I've tried so far after WD-40
>>> over the last few days, and tapping it with a hammer:
>>>
>>> 1) Quality Crafstman allen head socket and ratchet. No way, just spun
>>> out.
>>> 2) Vice Grips on outside - just spun around the bolt even though I
>>> reefed
>>> them on there as hard as I could, and checked I had clearance to spin
>>> the
>>> grips. No way.
>>> 3) Took a cold chisel and ridged the outside circumference to get the
>>> vice
>>> grips to bite better instead of spinning. No way, still spun. :-(
>>> 4) Threw a temper tantrum and spoke in tongues I learned in the Army.
>>> Wife
>>> not impressed. Me either.
>>>
>>> So what's number 5?? Get out my mig, and weld an allen wrench piece into
>>> the
>>> hole and use it as an "extension" Little worried about the grease, oil,
>>> gas,
>>> electronics about this one.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Courtney (Eyeing some Bud Limes right about now so I don't start
>>> speaking in
>>> tongues again)
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind,
>>> and the ones who mind, don't matter.
>>
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