Date:         Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:44:31 -0500
Reply-To:     Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Ry <rylincoln@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: /Window Tinting. Cut the curtains
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Ha, yeah. I'm not saying to "cop" an attitude. I'm not disagreeing with you
when I say I'll match wits with a cop any day, in a calm respectful manner.
It's not a matter of intelligence in my eyes, More a matter of picking your
battles and what one chooses to put up with.
So yes, in my state of Texas, if I know the laws that I'm being accused of
breaking, and deem myself innocent,  I would calmly point out my assessment
of the situation, arguing has such a negative connotation these days,
perhaps I should have said, "my calm reasonable response would be ....."

I too do not want to bring excess attention to myself, like when people tell
me "hey man cool van!!! why don't you paint it all psychedelic with flowers
and stuff all over it!!"   my response is, "man I don't want to be a target
for being pulled over."


anyhow, was just my 0.02

peace,
-Ry
http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:

>   Argue with cops is unproductive, should they choose to make it so.  It
> matters not how 'logical' your argument may be, if the cop is having a bad
> day, doesn't like your style, just got a flea bite or has any other reason
> to be nasty, he can do what he pleases...as long as he has the slightest
> hint of justification.
>
>   I see vehicles that are totally blacked-out...even the windshield has
> dark tinting.  I hear Harleys that are so loud they hurt my ears from half a
> mile away.  Not a problem, it seems, to drive one of those in most
> places...but if the Officer is "having a bad day"...he/she could be inclined
> to bother you with a citation, an arrest, or even a jolt from his stun gun
> ...and he/she would probably not be called to account for that.
>
>   It seems much more intelligent to just not draw the attention of Law
> Enforcement rather than to 'know your rights' and debate them with an
> unknown officer..
>
>   Just making an observation.  Utah is the state that came to mind when I
> consided the fact that my own window tinting had faded to silver on the
> outside.  Had a friend a few years back who was stopped passing through Utah
> in a Bay Window westie for 'reflective tinted windows' and then had his van
> searched, they found a roach and he was embroiled in all kinds of expensive
> and time consuming legal hassels...He avoided prision, just barely...Better
> to "fly below the radar" IMHO
>
>   Don Hanson
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Ry <rylincoln@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In Texas, you can tint all the windows as dark as you want except for the
>> drivers/passengers windows.  The way I would argue if someone said "that
>> tint is too dark in the back" is, what about panel vans that have NO windows
>> in the back?
>>
>> -Ry
>> http://www.google.com/profiles/rylincoln
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  I tinted the windows of my van about 2yrs ago.  I used the dark limo
>>> shade
>>> of the "best" grade window film from Shuck's Auto Parts store.  The film
>>> had
>>> shown remarkable durability...hard to damage, and I use my van.  The film
>>> has taken on an appearance of reflective tint on the outside lately.  The
>>> windows look almost 'silvered-over', which I understand it verbooten in
>>> some
>>> states..So I may be soon due to change the film or get stopped by the
>>> Gestapo for them not being able to see into my van through that 'faded'
>>> film.
>>>
>>>  Even before the film 'silvered-over' it was very cool inside and created
>>> good privacy during daylight hours.  At night with the interior lit up,
>>> it's
>>> like it is not even there from the outside, even now with the silver
>>> surface
>>> appearance, but without interior light, you can change clothes inside
>>> without grossing-out your prudish neighbors...
>>>
>>>  It's fairly easy to apply on the flat windows of the Vanagon, if you pay
>>> attention and use windex and a squeege.  I also put a "header" strip
>>> across
>>> the top of my windsheild, about 4" down from the roof.  This is helpful
>>> when
>>> heading west into the sun, yet you can still see the mountains through
>>> the
>>> tint.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > An aside to UV curtain-material deterioration .... get your windows
>>> tinted.
>>> > Makes a HUGE difference in a lot of different ways, to being in the
>>> van,
>>> > to say nothing of eliminating the negative effects of UV blast on the
>>> > inside of the van, not just the curtains. I'd suggest 3M.
>>> >
>>> > bob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
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