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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:18:50 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Power Steering Pumps - Again!
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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it's never good to hold right against the steering limit in either direction. If you reach the limit, fine ..but don't hold it there. That's bad for things.

I don't trust used pumps too much. I had a fine rebuilt rack get blown out completely by what I can only imagine was a pump failing.

Scott turbovans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Power Steering Pumps - Again!

>A clogged filter, Bad pressure valve or valve in the steering rack can also > cause the whining noises. > > I am not saying that the pumps never go bad but three at one time points > to > something else. > What are you using for fluid? > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > John Rodgers > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:21 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Power Steering Pumps - Again! > > Dennis, > > My pumps still function. BUT - they whine like crazy, it's loud, and > it's far worse when turning under a load such as when trying to parallel > park or when at or near the limits of turning of the steering wheel. > > I realize that even with a new pump there is always some slight whining > when the steering wheel turn limits are reached. I have a new PS unit > installed, freshly flushed and filled - and my pump still whines like > crazy. In fact, all three used pumps that I have put on subsequently > have protested loudly. > > Like alternators, these pumps see a lot of work, and because they are > raight at $300 a pop, and I have three vans, I'm real interested in > finding a simpler, cheaper solution to the pump issue. Plunking down > $900 for three pumps is not my idea of fun. And right now all three vans > have pumps that whine like crazy. > > John. Rodgers > > > On 8/22/2010 11:28 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: >> Why do you think these pumps are bad? The part that usually wears is > really >> the housing, (side play) and fixing this take machine work. They also >> usually last almost forever. I have only replaced two of these and they > were >> used on a number of VW and Audi products. Both died from being run dry. >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >> Of >> John Rodgers >> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:13 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Power Steering Pumps - Again! >> >> Since I now have three Vanagons to maintian, and all three have bad >> pumps, I am facing a $900 bill for PS pump replacement, so needless to >> say, I have been studying the pump problem intently. Bentley has some >> really good illustrations of the construction of these pumps, and I see >> absolutely no reason one cannot rebuild them in one's own garage. The >> problem is the availability of parts. >> >> These pumps are simple. A few gaskets and seals, a spring loaded >> pressure relief valve, a stator, a rotor, and some vanes to go in the >> rotor. >> >> The parts that wear are the vanes - which wear against the stator, and >> the rotor, where the vanes wear in their respective slots on the rotor. >> Those three parts - stator, rotor, vanes - are really easy to replace. >> So, what is the deal with getting those parts. All of our regular list >> vendors carry the seal kit, ie, gaskets, o-rings, etc, but I have yet to >> see one carry the stator, rotor, and vanes. So why not? As common as >> these parts are on Vanagons, surely they are available somewhere to the >> public at large. Why would/should these parts be the exclusive purvue of >> automotive component/appliance re-builders. >> >> I hope to turn this situation around, and I'm on the trail. Any input >> anyone has would be appreciated. I would like to add this as a success >> story to the archives. >> >> Homey's have rebuilt/repaired AFM's, ECU's, Auto Trannies, PS racks, to >> name a few - all in their home garages. So why not PS pumps?? >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> Thanks for putting up with a semi-rant! >> >> John >> >> -- >> John Rodgers >> Clayartist and Moldmaker >> 88'GL VW Bus Driver >> Chelsea, AL >> Http://www.moldhaus.com >> >>


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