Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:22:42 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Westy being held to ransom was: wetfalia stock weight
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Having a signed contract may give some leverage. Typically, it will be
what is on paper that counts, not what the mover "said" not what the movee
"understood"...the actual words on the document are what will count, nothing
else. Getting caught up in a mess like this means getting a lawyer. And
make sure you read your contract with the lawyer, too. Sometimes those
'humans' are worse than the crooks you are trying to get settled with. They
will want a cut of the settlement, the money they get back from the guy...or
they'll charge out at a very high hourly rate. Careful with them, too.
Don Hanson
"De-regulation" during recent years certainly has favored those doing the
sheep-shearing rather than us, in the Flock.
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Unfortunately, the interstate moving industry is effectively unregulated
> And scams are common.
>
> "http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/SavingandDebt/P95319.asp
>
> The interstate moving industry has been all but unregulated since 1995,
> when Congress got rid of the Interstate Commerce Commission.
>
> * The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), which
> is nominally responsible for interstate movers, focuses on
> reducing crashes. The agency has just three employees who
> monitor movers and cannot intervene on an individual consumers
> behalf.
>
> * The FBI has investigated some complaints and last year busted 16
> southern Florida movers in Operation Stow Biz. But the agency is
> among the first to admit that the arrests barely made a dent in
> this scam-infested industry.
>
> * Complaints about movers have more than tripled in the past
> decade, according to the Council of Better Business Bureaus,
> with 9,405 lodged last year alone. Like all good pirates, moving
> industry swindlers have taken note of the lack of regulation and
> enforcement, exploiting it to their full advantage.
> * "Typically, the con artists lull you with a lowball quote. Once
> your goods are on their trucks, they demand you pay two, three
> or even four times the agreed-upon amount. If you balk, your
> household goods are tossed into a warehouse somewhere to molder
> until you give in.
>
> --
> Rocky J Squirrel
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 19:19 -0600, Florian Speier wrote:
> > sorry I have to vent here a little.
> >
> > shockingly enough, the moving company is now holding my van to ransom.
> > The guy is unwilling to deliver my van unless I beforehand agree in
> > writing to pay him $800 instead of the $600 in the Uship contract by
> > tomorrow night, otherwise he will increase his price. He is not
> > willing to bring it here and discuss a solution. Per the Uship
> > agreement, last weeks friday was the latest acceptable delivery date.
> > He accepted the load when loading and said the weight is no problem.
> > We even fixed a flat tire on his trailer for free and stored his
> > trailer for four days for him. When he finally left he plowed over the
> > gate with serious damage.
> >
> > aaargh.
> >
> > thanks for listening. sorry for bothering the list.
> > Florian
>
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