Date:         Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:20:57 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Coolant/Oil that oil filter interface.. reasons
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OK ok...I shall hook that little gem up.  That seems to be the general
concensus, it works.  So who am I to try to out-thinkVW?  Well, I did get a
van without the WBX motor...(a joke, you all, don't flame me for a joke..)
  As for blowing up the Jetta motor and 'excusing my problem' because the
motor has unsure history or something else to cover up the fact that I
didn't use the oil/coolant heat exchanger?  Not my style...I probably
wouldn't really care  enough to lie anyhow, about why a motor blew...I would
go get another $300 one and stick that in, then maybe dig around inside and
see if perhaps I could tell...but motors fail for thousands of various
reasons...
  Hopefully, this one will be as good as the last, which is still in fine
shape and will be my "spare" now..

  In goes the plumbing for the cooler.

  Right now, I have just finished the tranny rehab with a new Throw out
bearing,  guide tube and I found the leak on the output shaft seal of the
tranny....Blue Swepco all over my clutch parts...Replaced the oil seal there
and saw that neat little spiral bushing in there...must be to 'screw-pump'
the transmission oil backwards as the shaft turns, keeping oil inside the
tranny...cool!

Clutch and Pilot Bearing is next, plus a main seal on the motor...since I am
back in there.  The Sachs kit comes with a pilot bearing included...and I
ordered one, too..so now I have a spare for a part I never knew
existed...Ahhh Vanagons.... I might even be up and running this evening..

  Thanks for the input, everyone.

  Don Hanson


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:

> The "complex WBX oil pressure warning system" has nothing to do with
> WBX. AFAIK eventually VW used it on just about every VW, beginning even
> before they used it on the WBX.
>
> Anyone with both temp gauges installed knows that oil temps climb higher
> and faster than "water" temps. The stock oil cooler does a job. VW
> deemed the job important on some engines and not important on others. I
> don't care if Don runs with or without the factory cooler his newer more
> powerful engine came with. His logic that if one engine didn't seem to
> need it no other engine does either seems a little off. I doubt that any
> major damage would be immediate in any case so if any does occur he can
> always blame it on the "used engine of unknown history" rather than
> anything he did.
>
> The turbo diesel is harder on oil than the WBX is. Even the plain diesel
> engine Vanagons had the oil cooler, starting in 1981. The turbo diesel
> Vanagons can make enough engine heat that they were eventually built
> with different front floor body sections so more air flow could pass
> through the radiator and a larger diameter radiator fan was fitted than
> was used on WBX models of the same vintage.
>
> Mark
>
>
> Janne Ruohomäki wrote:
>
>>
>> I live in area where it can be really cold during winter. I am
>> planning to upgrade my oil/water heat exchanger to bigger one. That
>> combined with remote controlled webasto and electrical aux water/oil
>> pumps will give me evenly heated engine in no time every winter
>> morning. Oh.. and mine is going to be turbo diesel. I would assume WBX
>> engine could actually be a bit more demanding on the oil temperature.
>> Dont really know, just a hunch. I dont think they went with that
>> complex WBX oil pressure warning system just for kicks.
>>
>> I would assume that the oil in the engine makes closer friends with
>> the hotter parts of the engine than water.
>>
>> I think exiting oil is quite a bit warmer than exiting water. Havent
>> really measured, but Im sure someone can confirm or deny?
>>
>>
>>