Date:         Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:41:22 -0700
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Andrew Grebneff Memorial Fund - Final Status
Comments: To: Joy Hecht <jhecht@alum.mit.edu>
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I disagree wholeheartedly with your erroneous conclusions!  ;)

"The List" didn't do anything for Andrew, the people on the list did.

I am the same person on The List as off it - I'm helpful and informative at
work , I pull over to help people broken down on the highway, I take care of
my neighbour's child when he's rushed to hospital with heart problems and I
spent 7 years as a young man doing charity work at a dollar a day.

I know  that there are many other people on The List who behave similarly in
their lives.

The List didn't help Andrew's widow, the people on The List did.


The more interesting question is; what is it about VW buses that attracts
thoughtful, outward-looking, helpful, generous people?


Seeya, Jake

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Joy Hecht <jhecht@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Bob Stevens <mtbiker62@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "I mean, surely we are all part of various communities, and in other
> > contexts we wouldn't do
> > this."
> >
> > I'm curious about where you get that information if you believe it is
> fact?
> >
>
> Just my experience.  I can't imagine the kayak, bike, or other
> sport-related
> lists I've been on acting this way.  The kayakers mostly seem to argue.
>  The
> neighborhood lists I'm on are certainly sometimes helpful in practical
> ways,
> but also very contentious on community issues, and not providing this kind
> of personal support to each other (though one was mostly good when there
> was
> a fire in the neighborhood).
>
> Donating blood (something I do regularly, except when they won't take mine
> because of my travels & exposure to malaria) has the anonymity of the
> vanagon list - easy to do good without actually interacting with the
> beneficiaries.
>
> Could well be that lots of groups are like this, though - I just haven't
> seen it.
>
>
> Joy
>



--
Jake

1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van'
1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie'

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