Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:44:00 -0700
Reply-To: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: "Wish in one hand, _____ in the other..." Clutch ?
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Right, that is exactly my problem...the pilot bearing is still inside the
1.8 liter crank and I missed it. If I was warned about that sometime when I
was collecting info and soliciting advice, it flew right over my head.
Now, after it's been pointed out, that bearing is fairly obvious, but as I
was doing the original project, I didn't notice it 'hiding' inside there. I
do recall that as I made my homemade clutch centering tool, there was some
slight difference as I went to install the clutch...it seemed not the same
as when I built that tool...I wrote that off to variation in the output
shafts..or something. Ignorance is the real reason...my first block swap
and clutch on a Vanagon.
Anyhow, I ordered the parts to do a real clutch job now and a new input
shaft bearing and TO bearing tube...
I was pretty gentle with the van....though I almost took off for Bishop,
Ca for a bike race, today..That would have been a real big mistake, trying a
2000 mile trip through the Sierras with no pilot bearing...
Thanks Mark and everyone who responded. Swepco makes a good "clutch oil"
I guess...
Don Hanson
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:53 AM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote:
> Don, I think you were warned. The ABA engine from an 93 Jetta does not use
> a clutch pilot bearing and so the hole for it in the crank is empty. If you
> did not acquire and install one you messed up big. The Vanagon requires this
> bearing to support the tranny input shaft. Otherwise the shaft will wobble,
> the tranny seal it pokes through will leak, and the clutch will get damaged,
> bellhousing may get damaged too, .......
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> Don Hanson wrote:
>
>> I've recently had my engine out. Inline 4 VW/5sp manual tranny. It
>> went back in with significantly more power (result of a new block). I
>> re-used the clutch and flywheel from my 1.8liter block, un-touched, on the
>> "new" 2.0liter block. I did not replace anything. Everything looked to
>> be
>> in acceptable shape, so I bolted it all up. Now my clutch is slipping
>> under
>> load. I have searched everything online on Clutch slipping..and it looks
>> like I have a 'clutch job' to do, but grasping at straws here, I am
>> wondering about cheap/easy fixes, first. That quote in the subject line
>> goes: "Wish in one hand, crap in the other hand and see which one fills
>> up
>> first" and is an old Ski Patrol saying from my Jackson Hole days, cleaned
>> up
>> for a family list.
>>
>> ................
>
>
>> I have oil dripping. I know now that I should have replaced the pilot
>> bearing and all those nearby seals (which looked good, but..) I get a
>> spot
>> of about 6" diameter when I park after a highway run...coming from the
>> junction of tranny and engine. I will be raising the rig back up today to
>> have a look...I could easily have a leaking pan (diesel-style, engine sits
>> in there at 50degree slant) causing that drip...The rear main seal of the
>> 2.0 liter block showed no leaking, so I didn't replace that, either..My
>> tranny was not leaking into the T.O. bearing area, either.
>>
>> any advice?
>>
>> thanks, Don Hanson
>>
>>
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