Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 18:13:12 -0500
Reply-To: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject: Re: Fuel Filters vs Fuel Strainers
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Agreed - opening a filter will tell you whats going on upstream.
For example rust in your filter = rust inside your tank and its a lot
cheaper to take care of now than on the side of the road later.
Tom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:40 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Subject: Re: Fuel Filters vs Fuel Strainers
I sure have, it's a typical folded paper filter element inside.
It's good to cut fuel filters open once in a while,
and I always empty them out backwards to see what's in them ..
that part is as more useful as putting on a new filter.
Scott
turbovans
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Fuel Filters vs Fuel Strainers
> OK. Has anyone ever cut one of each of these filters open and looked
> inside? I have not, so can't really address nor compare the issue of
> filter type.material.
>
> John Rodgers
> Clayartist and Moldmaker
> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
> Chelsea, AL
> Http://www.moldhaus.com
>
>
> On 10/6/2010 4:26 PM, Old Volks Home wrote:
>> The Square "Pre-Filter" is just that - a FILTER, not a strainer as
you
>> would
>> be led to believe by that Digifant Book. VW 133 133 511. This was
used
>> as
>> the ONLY filter on 75-79 Fuel Injection L-Jet engines on Beetles and
>> Buses.
>>
>> In a difference of opinion with Scott, a Pre-Filter and the
downstream
>> Cannister Filter was used on 82-later Air 2.0& Water Boxer 1.9
engines
>> through at least 85, particularly on the California Models. I know
>> because
>> I have owned both in the past 18 years. Only an 80 2.0 I once owned
just
>> had
>> the plastic Square Filter. And I continue to run both on both my 84
GL
>> and
>> 84 Westy as they originally came with.
>>
>> VW did away with the Pre Filter on the Digifants because the Fuel
Pumps
>> of
>> the era and replacements since then have a screen mesh inside the
Fuel
>> Pump
>> Inlet. Not really comfortable with the adequacy of that, so I would
run
>> a
>> Pre Filter anyway if I had a choice.
>>
>> My nickel's worth and YMMV
>> --
>> Jim Thompson
>> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
>> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
>> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
>> 75 914 1.8 "Nancy"
>> Full Timing Since March 1999
>> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
>> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
>> ***********************************
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:26 PM, John Rodgers<inua@charter.net>
wrote:
>>
>>> In working with my two vans that were stored for 10 years, I have
had
>>> to deal with many issues. One was getting the fuel delivery system
>>> working again. This included opening it up, and flushing all the old
>>> fuel and junk from it. The injectors were frozen and would not work,
so
>>> had to send them out for servicing. They work fine now. And the fuel
>>> pump on my Carat was seized so that had to be dealt with. By
removing
>>> the pump, and spraying carburetor cleaner into it and allowing it to
sit
>>> over night, then repeating the process, the pump freed up and now
works
>>> just fine.Then there was the issue of the fuel filters.
>>>
>>> In as much as I'm having idling problems, I got out the Digifant
Fuel
>>> Injection System manual to study. I found interesting remarks
concerning
>>> the fuel filters. In as much as there has been a good bit of talk on
>>> this list about the large filter after the pump, and the small
filter in
>>> front of the pump - here is what the book has to say about them.
>>>
>>> ************************
>>>
>>> *Fuel Filters*
>>>
>>> Two types of filters are used on the Digifant system.
>>>
>>> One is a square _*plastic fuel strainer*_ which is mounted before
the
>>> fuel pump *_to __protect the pump_* from foreign particles.
>>>
>>> The *_main fuel filter_* is a metal cylinder which mounts behind the
>>> fuel pump. *_It has a finer filtering mesh to protect the fuel
injection
>>> components._*
>>>
>>> Both are lifetime filters and do not require replacement under
normal
>>> circumstances.
>>>
>>> *********************
>>>
>>> Of interest to me is the different function of the two filters - the
>>> first to protect the pump. the second to protect the FI components,
ie,
>>> the injectors.
>>>
>>> I note that one is a fuel STRAINER, while the other is a fuel
FILTER.
>>> Quite a different between a strainer and a filter.
>>>
>>> I have read that the square strainer can be left out, but after
reading
>>> this - I would not. Each filter/strainer serves a different and
distinct
>>> purpose and therefore both need to be in the fuel system..
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Rodgers
>>> Clayartist and Moldmaker
>>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver
>>> Chelsea, AL
>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com<http://www.moldhaus.com/>
>>>
>>
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