Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:14:53 -0500
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Oil temp. ? and OP ?
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That's true Jake. The tencentlife cooler is described as fitting in the right D-pillar, which is where the items mentioned are located. Anyway, I guess it will all work out, especially when I have instructions for the cooler in hand. DMc
---- Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Relax Dave, you have two D pillars! ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > this confuses me. I am considering the same thing, but for my waterboxer
> > 2.1. What do you mean by, " ... that would fit vertically on to the
> > D-Pillar hole vacated by the WBX airbox and idle control unit."? I do know
> > that the tencentlife cooler fits in the D-pillar, but I did not know it was
> > in a " ...space vacated by the WBX airbox and idle control unit." Of
> > course, with my waterboxer, those components are essential. DMc
> >
> > ---- Jonathan Berg <jonbergga@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > I'm pondering putting either a slightly (or much) larger water/oil
> > > heat exchanger from a PD or V6 on my beast to take the edge off my
> > > temps.
> > >
> > > I've found a couple of small, pretty much rectangular oil cooler units
> > > that would fit vertically on to the D-Pillar hole vacated by the WBX
> > > airbox and idle control unit.
> > >
> > > Tencentlife on The Samba has a kit that stashes a slightly larger unit
> > > at an angle in the same space. Nicely done set up.
> > >
> > > Holler if you want to compare notes.
> > >
> > > JB
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Great,
> > > > thank you, everyone.
> > > >
> > > > Mine seems to be running a little too hot, compared to these numbers
> > > > then. Assuming my gauges are correct and located in good places, on a
> > > > highway drive in 70f temps at 65mph I was seeing 230-245f Oil Temp,
> > > > stabilized after about 10 miles of coming up to temp. I am running
> > without
> > > > the coolant/oil filter heat exchanger connected right now, so I shall
> > put
> > > > that into the system to see if that will bring my Oil temp down. If
> > that
> > > > doesn't help much, then I'll try a real oil cooler...probably in the
> > > > driver's side D-pillar (the passenger side has my cool air intake
> > snorkle)
> > > > I didn't have any numerical gauges when running the old 1.8 liter set
> > > > up..just the light and the water temp dash indicator...which, by the
> > way,
> > > > reads just below the LED with an 80c thermostat, has done on both motor
> > > > confifurations.
> > > >
> > > > My oil pressure, as indicated by a new VDO sender and instrument,
> > > > sensing from the front of the head, indicates that my oil is losing
> > > > significant viscosity at the motor gets hot...I have about 85psi on
> > start up
> > > > (15/40 dino oil) but as I reach 230f with the oil temp. the pressure
> > sinks
> > > > to about 25 at 2000+ rpms and 10psi at idle..Lower than I like. Not
> > low
> > > > enough to activate the OP warning light, but too low for my liking ...
> > When
> > > > the Oil temp is indicated around 200, I have 40psi OP.. In town, the
> > temp
> > > > comes down to around 210f. I bet when climbing a long mountain
> > pass..it
> > > > will probably rise to beyond what is good...that is just a guess...
> > > >
> > > > I may also be seeing some thermal issues from my ignition timing being
> > off
> > > > a little. I timed this "franken-motor" by ear, and now I am
> > incrementally
> > > > working the timing back, little by little (advancing the ignition spark
> > > > timing) until it begins to show signs of detonation...
> > > >
> > > > A few more 'refinements' as I wrap up this little project..swapping
> > the
> > > > 1.8 liter block out for the ABA jetta bottom end.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for the temp and pressure numbers, everyone.
> > > >
> > > > Don Hanson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Jonathan Berg <jonbergga@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> 50 degree ABA I4 layout like yours. VDO gauges in the A pillar. MobIl
> > > >> 1 15W50. Syncro with lots of fiddlly bits.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cold start up presides of ~75 psi.
> > > >>
> > > >> Warm idle of ~15-20 psi.
> > > >>
> > > >> Intown high temps of 220-225F. Haven't seen a pressure lower than 30
> > off
> > > >> idle.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sustained highway driving at 75mph I've touched 240F with no drops in
> > > >> pressure ~65psi. A touch hot me thinks.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thinking about a larger oil/waterheat exchanger or a separate D pillar
> > > >> oil cooler.
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH
> > > >>
> > > >> JB
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tuesday, October 5, 2010, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Those of you with Oil Temperature gauges, what kind of operating
> > temps
> > > >> do
> > > >> > you see? And Oil pressure gauges? Readings?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I just installed some into my 'new' inline Jetta powered 84..I
> > have no
> > > >> > idea of what the ranges of temp and pressure is deemed acceptable..
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Anybody have actual gauges and want to share?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Don Hanson
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
>
> 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX 'The Grey Van'
> 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Suby 'Dixie'
>
> Crescent Beach, BC
>
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David McNeely
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