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Date:         Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:24:55 -0400
Reply-To:     Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cheap front door speakers sound Great!
Comments: To: Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <29525.61836.qm@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Everybody for the tips. Sure looks glued in. I tried a little screwdriver blade twisting down in there and it flexed, but didn't come loose. Also found some items in the archives about breaking the speakers out or using the dremel. I think dremel is my next step. The frame of the actual speaker seems to be some sort of composite/plastic material.

Edward

At 09:45 PM 10/13/2010, Richard Koerner wrote: >If nothing obvious like glue, maybe there is a "lip" of metal on the >speaker that engages in a snap-fit style...permanent snap-fit. (If >I were designing it for rapid mass-production, I would probably do >something like that.) So perhaps some gentle prying around the >perimeter with a flat blade screwdriver would work, to fold the >metal of the speaker rim back. Or...patient removal of the engaging >plastic which produces the snap fit using the utility knife >blade. Magnification with an eye-loupe (like my trusty 5X one I use >for just about everything) would surely help; but that's another >trip to Ace Hardware or somewhere to buy one if you don't have >one. Just an idea....my old speakers went out with the trash so >nothing to look at. > >Rich >San Diego > >--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > >From: Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET> >Subject: Re: Cheap front door speakers sound Great! >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 6:23 PM > >Edward....my old Blaupunkts just "fell" out...literally...there was >nothing holding them in, or whatever was had long since >evaporated. But that doesn't help your situation. I read in some >old archives that someone used a Dremel or something, and another >guy used brute force and a handy knife. Of course, you don't need >to worry about damaging the old ones, so I would probably go the >Dremel if you've got one and the "brute force" method if you don't. > >Hope you like them! I do! Pretty cool for 15 Bucks! > >Rich >San Diego > >--- On Wed, 10/13/10, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >From: Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> >Subject: Re: Cheap front door speakers sound Great! >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 4:34 PM > >Well I "ran" right out and bought some of these and they are already >here. How did you get the old speaker out of the enclosure? Mine is >an 86 Wolfsburg and it looks like it has the speaker glued into the >enclosure. The enclosure is held to the door with the big threaded >ring. Seems like I've read in the past about people braking the old >speaker to get it out? good/easy way to do this without damaging >the enclosure? > >Thanks, >Edward > >At 07:38 PM 10/9/2010, Richard Koerner wrote: > >After the last few roadtrips, noticed that the front factory door > >speakers (25 year old Blaupunkt) were sounding weak and fuzzy. I > >have a second pair of 5 1/4" speakers mounted down by the footwell, > >but the fuzzy speakers were annoying. Did hardly any research to > >find 3 1/2" speakers for to replace the factory ones (I'm not a > >serious audiophile...just want it to sound "pretty good"). Found > >these Legacy 3 1/2" 120 Watt Co-axial speakers on Amazon; bought > >from CarAudioDeals, $11.23 + $3.73 shipping. > > > >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002M792S/ref=oss_product > > > >Removed old Blaupunkts...sure enough, the paper cones were > >split. Installed the new Legacy's...NOW we're talking!!! I think > >they sound really good, amazing actually. Plenty of base, good > >highs, look like solid speakers....especially for under $15 for the pair. > > > >Some installation caveats: > > > >1. The speakers come with side mounting tabs.....no problem, just > >fold these back. > >2. The tweeter extends beyond the rim of the main speaker by about > >1/4". The original speaker grills are slightly convex...but not > >enough...the tweeter will rest on the interior of the grill. So I > >made a "spacer washer" out of an old neoprene wetsuit, about 3.5" OD > >and 3.2" ID, and used 2 layers of 1/8" thick wetsuit, glued > >together. I epoxied this spacer washer to the mounting face of the > >new speakers, and then applied more epoxy to the face of the spacer > >washer and placed inside the speaker grill enclosure and let it cure > >to mount the speaker in the grill enclosure. I think you can buy > >spacer washers if you want; or, you could probably build up > >thicknesses of cardboard or something to achieve the same > >effect. Anyway, it all worked just fine, solid, no buzzing. And it > >fits the factory plastic shell on the door panel. Of course no > >problem with the window cranks either since using the factory grill. > > > >Very impressed by the sound...can really turn it UP if I want > >to...and I do a lot of driving with windows rolled down. By the > >way, my radio is from a Honda Civic that I got on ebay for about > >$10...nothing fancy but a good unit, LCD display matches the > >instrument cluster clock, looks "factory" except that it says Honda > >on the cassette tape door (need some black paint and an artist's > >brush to take care of that I guess). > > > >Extremely pleased with the final result....should last for years. > > > >Rich > >85 Vanagon GL > >San Diego


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