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Date:         Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:41 -0600
Reply-To:     Tom Buese <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tom Buese <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Buying advice
Comments: To: mcneely4@COX.NET
In-Reply-To:  <20101011162840.PWQDD.1155513.imail@eastrmwml48>
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In Utah, you can bond for a lost title, but don't know if that will work w/ missing BOS's or in the states mentioned.

YMMV,

Mr. BZ-if the deal is too good to be true, then it usually isn't a deal for you?

On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote:

> I don't of course know how much money was involved. A significant amount, I suspect. > > You can (1) Call a lawyer, likely not going to help much but will cost money, (2) Call the police in the state where you bought the vehicle. Not likely to help, but may put a little pressure on the guy regarding covering his ass better next time he decides to practice fraud, and (3) write it off as a lesson learned. > > DMc > > ---- "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET> wrote: >> A lot of great suggestions were made here. >> >> So sorry to hear you are having problems with your purchase! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of >> craig cowan >> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:25 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Buying advice >> >> I appreciate all the advice, particularly the first half of the advice I >> recieved before buying it at noon.... >> : ) >> >> To be fair, his "bad reviews" were from 2 people, they were frequent, and >> they were resolved. They were resolved in a satisfactory way that Everett >> let him back on thesamba and even wrote a little thing acknowledging that >> this bad review was not very valid. The reviews in question were in regards >> to a guy that bought a split window bus PROJECT from him, only to find it >> had rust. Seriously? That's expected I thought. >> And the other review was in regards to shipping a large item (I think it was >> a middle seat) to Tailand, and it took SURPRISE.... more than 2 weeks. >> So to give the man some credit, his slate may as well be clean. This stuff >> happens, particularly if you sell alot of stuff. >> >> Anyway, for the last week i've been talking to the guy and getting really >> good vibes about him. He's been very helpful and I sincerely think I am >> getting a wonderful deal. The sad part of this situation is that I had a >> deadline with which to pay him the money which was today, as he's closing a >> house (he's been upfront about that since day 1). The reason being, my price >> was 1/3 the cost of what he had another buyer lined up to pay, cash ready, >> that could make the deadline. He was going out of his way to be nice to me, >> since we agreed upon a price first. >> >> He now has my money, and I have an email correspondence with him listing his >> personal information, contact information, and a stated (though still >> unofficial) bill of sale which includes the VIN number, pictures, and a >> description of the conditions. >> >> The vehicle is in Portland Oregon. >> I am "planning" to have it shipped. I would however LOVE to drive it home. >> Any volunteers to do some work on it for me : ) ???? >> I could have it shipped to you.... you could make it work...... I could fly >> out....we could hang out..... i could have an adventure driving it >> home...... : ) >> Just throwin it out there..... >> >> >> Thanks again guys! >> >> -Craig >> '85GL turned WESTY >> BOSTIG In the back >> '87SUNROOF SYNCRO >> >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < >> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Roger, >>> thanks for mentioning me. >>> I sure hope it works out for the guy buying the van, whatever happens. >>> I'm glad he posted. >>> >>> Scott >>> www.turbovans.com >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Roger Whittaker" <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM> >>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:35 AM >>> Subject: Re: Buying advice >>> >>> >>> dear far and away >>>> >>>> there are a few choices to make here >>>> 1. send money ... laugh or cry later >>>> 2. Go to see the guy and make purchase in person .. >>>> 3. fly to oregon and if you dont like the van ...go see scott in medford >>>> and >>>> buy one of his >>>> 4. you in PA already .. go see chris and drive away with all his junk ... >>>> store it and then go get what ever you like from who ever and you already >>>> have all the parts you need >>>> >>>> 5. send money ... hire other to pick up vehicle ... >>>> 6 Rebuy already purchased vehicle from the scammers again and again from >>>> various online ... send money now ... get goods later people ... >>>> 7. Fly to england and go to the brickyard there to purchase ... send >> money >>>> in GBP before you go so you can loose twice as much in exchange rate >>>> 8. buy a delicia >>>> 9. buy a toyota >>>> 10 take a holiday on a cruise ship $$ are the same spent and adventure is >>>> more controllable as onboard casino is set at 60 % house 40% guest >>>> >>>> yours >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:40 AM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm working on closing a deal today on a sunroof syncro that's in Oregon >>>>> (I >>>>> am in PA). Anyway.... >>>>> The buyer has asked that I just transfer money via a wire transfer in >>>>> full >>>>> to his bank account which i normally wouldn't be overly hesitant about >>>>> but >>>>> realize this would not afford me any type of fraud prevention should >>>>> anything happen. I asked him a few days ago what assurance he can give >> me >>>>> that this is going to be a fullproof transaction and his response was >>>>> that >>>>> should it go sour for any reason, just bash him on thesamba.com. Since >>>>> he >>>>> runs a VW restoration business almost entirely through thesamba, it >>>>> seemed >>>>> like a just response. Well..... I went and checked him out on the samba, >>>>> and >>>>> he's already been bashed enough. He's been banned close to 10 times >>>>> (under >>>>> different names), there are pending fraudulant claims and arguments >>>>> occuring >>>>> between he and buyers. Luckily, there are also great reviews of his >>>>> service >>>>> being above and beyond the call of duty. So this has me at least >> slightly >>>>> concerned, any suggestions? >>>>> Paypal may be an option, does that award a great deal more security? >>>>> >>>>> Furthermore, I don't recieve a bill of sale via the mail for at least a >>>>> week >>>>> after I give the guy all my money..... indicating that I don't actually >>>>> own >>>>> the car, but have given aside all my money. I asked that he send me an >>>>> email >>>>> with his full name, address, the VIN of the car, and which contains >>>>> agreement terms....should I need to press charges later. Does this sound >>>>> like a reasonable thing to want? Am I fair in wanting something like >> this >>>>> BEFORE I pay? He seems to indicate (and I can see this point as well) >>>>> that >>>>> no actual change of ownership agreements ever occur untill after >>>>> purchase. >>>>> Sadly he's been pretty tricky with emails, so I have my concerns (Though >>>>> he's easiliy reached via the phone and a wonderful person to talk too. >> He >>>>> seems to be really interested in helping me out). >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> I'm very excited about this purchase, but very concerned now. >>>>> >>>>> -Craig >>>>> '85GL turned WESTY >>>>> BOSTIG in the back >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> roger w >>>> From Proverbs: >>>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a >>>> servant who becomes king ... >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Explore printed work at: http://www.prliving.ca/ >>>> View the growing list of video work at: >>>> http://revver.com/find/video/?query=LastonLastof&search_on=owners

>>>> >>> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2985 - Release Date: 07/06/10 >> 14:36:00 > > -- > David McNeely


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