Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:19:30 -0700
Reply-To: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
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From: Jim Arnott <jrasite@EONI.COM>
Subject: Re: Bill of Sale Issues on my first Syncro
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Craig,
I'm really sorry that you had to learn this lesson on your own. Many
folks who've been down this road tried to steer you away from this
situation.
At this point, it's ALL on you.
1.) Contact local law enforcement and have them determine if it is a
stolen vehicle.
2.) If not, (and you had best make dxxned sure that it's not), trace
the plates to the last registered owner and attempt to get a bill of
sale from them. Send registered letter to address on registration. If
returned unopened, keep it unopened as a record that you attempted to
contact. Contact the lienholder and ask for a release of interest.
Note.... Either might simply ask you to return THEIR property to
them. You have no recourse. As they are the last owner of record,
they own it.
3.) If you can procure a bill of sale and a release of interest, then http://www.its-titles.com/
is your next stop.
BTDT. Took three years and three hundred dollars, but I do own my
abandoned Westy free and clear.
You can call the seller out, but truth be told, I suspect that it will
make no difference to the situation.
(Moral of the story: If it seems too good to be true. It is.)
Jim
On Oct 11, 2010, at 12:15 PM, craig cowan wrote:
> I have a problem.
>
> I purchased a 1987 Sunroof Syncro from a seller via TheSamba from
> Oregon in
> July and had it shipped out to me in PA. It was sold without a
> title, and
> there will be some titling issues as the car has been scrapped...
> but more
> on that later. I can't even start with the titling issues without a
> bill of
> sale and paper trail (past bills of sale), all of which were
> promised to me
> in the purchase. Not only that, they were to be filled out on
> supplied forms
> and notorized (PA is big on that).
> Anyway, I am now over 3 months from the purchase of the vehicle and
> the
> seller has had all this time to spend my money, yet I have not had
> any time
> to use my vehicle as he has still provided no bill of sale. He is very
> unresponsive towards phone calls and emails.
> Furthermore, he runs a business with it's main advertising on
> TheSamba.com.
>
> So, would it be wise to Contact Thesamba.com and see if they can ban
> him
> untill my issue is resolved?
> Is it wise for me to start talking with an attorney, and further
> claiming
> damages for my lost time without a vehicle?
> Is it wise for me to fly out to his address with a local constibul
> and meet
> him face to face demanding he sign on the spot?
>
> I am a college student and a long time vanagon nut. As such, I have no
> money. It took me years of patient saving and waiting to purchase
> the syncro
> that I have, and this man is standing between me and my dreams.
> What's that
> worth?
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful. Feel free to contact me on or off
> list.
>
> I have a problem.
>
> -Craig Cowan
> '85GL turned WESTY
> BOSTIG in the back
> '87SUNROOF Syncro
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