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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:46:47 -0400
Reply-To:     Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM>
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From:         Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Stainless Pipes Determination and Deionized Water Query
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With all the talk of conductive water in the cooling system and stainless pipes, I ran across a bunch of articles saying that you can get zero conductivity water by ordering de-ionized water, and then mix this with the coolant.

He is a 55 gallon drum that comes with free shipping http://www.boilerandcoolingwater.com/Deionized_Water_ACS_Grade_p/dw4000-55g.htm

I noticed that some coolant manufacturers are now using de-ionized water as part of their premix coolant, and I noticed other coolant manufacturer sites recommending deionized water (or distilled water) be used with coolant.

This is all a mystery to me as I had though that we are supposed to NOT use distilled water as coolant mix.

I have decided to use stainless pipes in my vans, make sure that these are NOT grounded to the chassis (Scott!!) or touching it or any other metal in any way, and use litmus strips to test the coolant for acidity, use Schaeffer's Clean and Cool http://www.schaefferoil.com/specialty/258_coolant_additive.html additive, and probably, pending what is said on this list about this topic, use the deionized water to further minimize conductivity of the water.

If somebody could revive the argument against distilled water for coolant, I'd like to hear it. Presumably, that argument would apply to deionized water as well.

The difference between distilled water and deionized water is subtle, but it seems that the deionized water has no conductive minerals or substances in it at all, whereas distilled water is not designed to be necessarily so after it gets into the container and into your house.

The required subaru content of this email is present in that many vendors of subaru conversion parts offer stainless elements to their conversions. In my view, this shows an admirable concern about keeping the vans alive for those of us who drive in winter or wet or damp or oceanic conditions and salt, and I would not call such a material selection a mistake, but rather a gift that should be appropriately managed.

So, in summary, I do not believe that the use of stainless materials in the vehicles is necessarily a mistake or serious error, except in those cases that the stainless interfaces directly with dissimilar metals on the car. I'd be skeptical that any vendor would offer a stainless part that bolts or attaches directly to a non-stainless part without insulation, and if so, then I think they should be more concerned about doing 101-no-nos.

_______________________________________________ Derek Drew Founder, ConsumerSearch.com Washington DC / New York derekdrew@derekmail.com 202-966-7907 (Call the number at left normally) (alt/cell for diligent calling only): 703-408-1532


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