Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:44:19 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Van-Cafe fuel-line firewall adapter
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Nice to see your note Daryl.
speaking of the KISS principle...
the fewer connections the better.
after removing the fire wall connector, one can run the hose on the engine
directly the plastic line coming from the fuel pump.
that is ONE connection, and one hose clamp.
if one uses a barbed junction or similar..that'll work just fine,
but it's two connections and two hose clamps.
the fewer the parts ..there less there is to go wrong.
I have yet to have any problem with the 'direct connection' method.
I might use two hose clamps next to each other where the hose slides over
the plastic line, for extra insurance, but it's still just one connection.
in general, you want to think about where fuel would leak, and on what, 'if'
there is going to be any leaking ever.
what fun vanagons are !
Scott
turbovans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daryl Christensen" <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Van-Cafe fuel-line firewall adapter
>I agree with Scott..
> Have done conversions and repairs and use a brass barbed connector to
> join/repl the original connector and secure it under the sheet metal.
> Twice
> I have run it thru the hole and placed the brass in the holes center with
> the clamps on each side..not a problem doing that either.
> The KISS principle rules generally.
>
> Daryl of AA Transaxle
> 425-788-4070
> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
> 86 Syncro Westy with a Zetec in the trunk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:16 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Van-Cafe fuel-line firewall adapter
>
> oh you guys ..
> I have been saying this online for years now ..
>
> WHY oh why ..
> would anyone run the fuel hose through the firewall hole where there is NO
> reason to do that ???
>
> there's a nice fat space between bell housing and sheet metal right below
> the firewall hole...
> that space is about 3 inches wide.
>
> it's silly ....why would anyone put a critical fuel hose through a hole in
> a
> metal panel, then be concerned about a grommet there to protect the hose,
> where it does NOT need to go through that hole !
>
> I like Van Cafe,
> I consider them buddies almost .
> I buy good stuff from them ..
> they are my favorite online vendor for anything vanagon-related ,
> my first choice every time,
> but I don't agree with anyone that says to put the fuel hose through the
> firewall, when there is clearly no reason to.
> it's like anal to think it has to though there.
>
> I make sure the hose doesn't flop around or rub ...absolutely on that ..
> but no need to through that hole, at all.
>
> I make everything I can ....solid, simple, easy to work on, and durable.
> I learned from diesel vangons that vibration can cause severely bad
> things
> to happen./ Things like fuel hoses or battery cables rubbing...
> saw this once...
> diesel vanagon, there is a clip that holds the hot positive battery cable
> to
> the top of the battery box near the coolant pressure bottle.
> if that plastic clip is missing ..and the battery cable rides on the oil
> filter..
> might take 5,000 miles...but eventually engine vibration will cause the
> battery cable insulation to wear off in one spot, then you get a nice Zap
> as
> it grounds out on the oil filter, burning a hole in it, and igniting the
> oil
> inside the oil filter.
> Then it grows to a nice engine fire. On the one case of that I know of
> ...a utility company truck just happened by with a fire extinguisher.
> That
> guy sure was lucky.
> point is..........I pay very careful attention to rubbing and
> vibration-caused rubbing of wires, hoses, etc.
> And it's better not to run the fuel hose through the firewall.
>
> an analogy .
> some sailboats have mast steps on the mast. People ask, what are those
> mast
> steps there for ?
> The answer is................ so you can climb up there easily when the
> sail
> gets tangled on those steps.
> Naturally ....not having mast steps is more efficient, and practical.
>
> Same deal with the firewall hole.
>
> whatever !
> grommet if you must !
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark L. Hineline" <hineline@OCOTILLOFIELD.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Van-Cafe fuel-line firewall adapter
>
>
>> Zoltan, then how do you protect the fuel line from abrasion where it
>> passes through the firewall?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Zolly wrote:
>>
>>> I eliminate this items when I install fuel lines. It adds two more
>>> connections to the system. I connect straight to the plastic fuel
>>> line.
>>> This item is helping assembly at the factory only.
>>> Zoltan
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