Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:23:11 -0700
Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
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From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
Subject: Re: The Allegory of the Wave
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I don't think it was one member, but rather the group's attitude that Mark
was questioning. I have noticed that the group has changed quite a bit from
the "old days", and I am not nearly as active as I used to be. Back then,
there was very little cussing and much more civility/respect, and those
standards of polite society didn't have to be enforced, they just "were".
I used to compare a typical day on this list as being similar to a big
family dinner, where conversation flowed back and forth. For a while we'd
all be talking about one thing, then break into smaller groups. All were
welcome in any conversation, and it was difficult to offend anyone. That
has all changed with today's cast of characters; it is more like a street
brawl, and all having chips on their shoulders, just waiting to rant about
something.
I don't pretend to know how to return to more "civilized" times, but I sure
do miss them. That said, this is still a pretty good group of folks.
Karl Wolz
|-----Original Message-----
|From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
|Michael Sullivan
|Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:01 AM
|To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
|Subject: Re: The Allegory of the Wave
|
|Darn, Mark...someone must have really hurt you for this converasation to
|continue. Sorry if that happened, but GET OVER IT. All this complaining
|is
|not helping your case. Just move on and get past it and later you find
|that
|you will end up liking the differences of opinions...maybe even learn a
|different point of view...or you can can just keep whining about it.
|I reserve my opinions about most of the listmembers until I actually meet a
|few. Then I can make a judgement.
|Take it up with the specific member in pmail and let's just table this
|issue.
|Once you put it out there on the InterWeb...you can't take it back.
|
|Michael in San Antonio
|91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
|
|
|
|On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Mark L. Hineline <
|hineline@ocotillofield.net> wrote:
|
|> Maybe, like other transporter/Vanagon owners, you wave when you see
|> another bus or van. You hope they wave back. Some people don't, but a
|> lot do.
|>
|> Now suppose, as a joke, one day someone does the wave and you give
|> them the finger back. Just for fun. Because they ought to have a thick
|> skin.
|>
|> I hope this never happens to me.
|>
|> I think -- and it's just my opinion -- that this list ought to be
|> about the wave, and never about the finger.
|>
|> Your mileage may vary.
|>
|>
|> Mark
|> '82 Westy
|>
|