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Date:         Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:52:22 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: No Start Problem
Comments: To: J Stewart <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET>
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the practical thing is to have a starter trigger wire rigged in the engine compartment. Very useful... for self-rescue, for determining that the starter itself works and the problem may be somewhere else in the van. Use for doing compression checks, and so on.

if it's not clear how to rig that ... get one of those spade connector doubler-uppers ( or ..some starters have two trigger terminals on the solenoid ) ....as long as you get an additional wire , besides the stock one from the key., to the trigger terminal of the solenoid. then ...if the starter itself is good . you can opiate the starter very nicely from the engine compartment if you need to.

Depending on the stock under-built cheap ignition switch 100 % is asking for trouble at some point. At least have the back up trigger wire in the engine compartment.. or sometimes I wire in an entire dedicated 'hot' starter circuit .. with nice fat generic starter button on the dash ...there's nice spot there right above the light switch on the left side .. with good size dedicated wires, from batt to starter button to starter solenoid. ( that makes an 'always hot' starter button ..not something you'd want with kids around say. ) that works baby. Way mo' betta than the 20 + year old stock wiring and that lightweight ignition switch.

Scott turbovans

----- Original Message ----- From: "J Stewart" <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:48 AM Subject: Re: No Start Problem

Sorry, folks, every time I post something like this I DO reread it to check if I have given all the info,and even though I *think* I have, I haven't. Jiggling the shift lever or putting it in neutral doesn't help. The connections at the starter and the battery are very clean. It does not have the hard start relay, I haven't put one of those on since a '77 Bay Westy I owned years ago, but maybe I need to look into that, cheaper than a starter! Here's how it goes (and typical of my life!) I have the day off from work and have planned to do more than humanly possible in one day. At 7:45 this morning I run out and jump in the van to go to Lowes. Turn the key about 20 times and nothing-warning lights on, fuel pump whirring away, nothing from the starter. Daughter comes out of the house to go to school. I get out of the van and commandeer her New Beetle, drive her to school and run my errands. Get back home, and just for the fun of it, go to the van and try to start it- the &^$% fires right up! It's been doing this for a few weeks now and its driving me crazy! Jeff

Jeff Stewart

----- "Paul Guzyk" <paullist08@GUZYK.COM> wrote:

Try "jiggling" gear shift around Park and Neutral while turning key to start.

keep foot on brake just in case.

You can also remove gear shift housing cover and bypass switch to test if it is the problem.

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:41 AM, David Milo <dellaone@gmail.com> wrote:

> Could be the neutral safety switch in the gear selector. Try shifting to > neutral and see if it will start then. > >


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