Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:23:09 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: sales values
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Even most upgrades really just restore function.
I wouldn't quite say that at all.
16 inch wheels with properly rated tires and larger front vented disc
brakes, for example,
do more than 'restore function.'
and you can't say a 160 hp subaru engine just 'restores function.'
or TDI engine ..
those all do far more than just restore function.
or say ...adding a locking front differential ..
that does far more than restores function ..
it Upgrades Function and Capability.
in any case...
the real world value, what you can get for it, what insurance companies
think it's worth ..
those numbers are always all over the place.
we also have to remember that while vanagons loom very large in our view of
the world,
the are a tiny niche in the overall automotive scene ...
particularily to an insurance company.
which is why they invented the policies that cover what it's really worth ,
or to you ..
you just pay more for that coverage in premiums.
You can probably insure your stock 82 diesel westy for $ 50K if you're
willing to pay the premium for that coverage.
an aside note...
I have never liked the idea very much of limited miles of use per year.
Though I could fit easily under a 10K miles a year limit these days..
still , I want unlimited miles to be OK.
and I have cars that could be Colectible or Antique ..
but I wouldn't want them registered or insured where they were limited to
2,500 miles a year, or club functions ..what fun is that ! I might want to
drive to Alaska in it. The wide open road beckons...
at least until while it's still available.
VROOOM !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: sales values
Most of the base values come from the sale values reported to the local
motor vehicle departments when vehicles change hands. So when someone buys a
van and reports and pays sales tax on a fraction of what they paid that is
now a reference. Also, in the real world vehicles really do depreciate. They
wear out and become obsolete. All the money pumped into them really amounts
to just repairs. Even most upgrades really just restore function.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Dave Mcneely
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:08 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: sales values
Why do resale value reporters like Kelly Blue Book give such *%&#$@&! values
for our campers? Certainly, the values reported there are way out of line
with the prices that folks claim to get or pay for campers. thoughts?
--
David McNeely
