Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:15:47 -0500
Reply-To: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
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From: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 8 Secretive Part Numbers For One Fuel Pump?
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I am positive that there are identical parts on the market when it comes to
fuel pumps. I recall a ford bronco even using a similar pump, at least in
appearance.
I had a mercedes with the same pump on it. When the pump went bad and my
father brought it to me freaking out about how much it would likely cost and
where to find a replacement, I simply opened a drawer, full of them. : )
The mercedes pump had the same bosch number on it as the VW pump.
Yes, they're out there. I'd even say it's worth the $46 to take the chance
on finding out!
-Craig
(Who now has a drawer, of broken fuelpumps)
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Derek Drew <derekdrew@derekmail.com> wrote:
> As far as I can determine, here are the part numbers for the same
> Vanagon Bosch Fuel pump:
>
> 0 580 463 016
> 0 580 464 070
> 69713
> 69469
> GFP301
> 0580463016
> 0580464070
> 251 906 091
>
> All these are Bosch part numbers and the last one is a VW number.
>
> The matter is important because if you go onto ebay, say, and search
> for them using this query:
>
> Bosch ("0 580 463 016","0 580 464
> 070",0580463016,0580464070,69713,69469,"251 906 091",GFP301,"GFP 301")
>
> Then you see many pumps, many of which are original genuine Bosch, at
> prices from $46 to $200.
>
> I am wondering if this is like the Mattress industry where everybody
> sells the same few parts under many secretive part numbering schemes
> so consumers cannot compare prices.
>
> Or, is there a reason some of us are buying the Vanagon pump for $150
> at Rockauto and our favorite vanagon vendors, but ebayers are sending
> out what seems to be the exact same part for $50 if you know the part
> number to look under.
>
> As far as I can tell, these all should be the same 130lph to 190lph
> Bosch 6 amp pump. (lph = liters per hour and the matter is topical
> with higher horsepower engines, which need more liters per hour, and
> we are wondering if the Vanagon pump is enough for 212 horsepower.
>
> =========================================
>
> The matter came up on a Samba thread where were are having fun with a
> kind of a Vanapalooza fest where I am converting my vans to 6
> cylindar 3.0L Subaru engines, which you can see in this 7 page thread
> here:
>
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=440872&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100
>
>
> _______________
> Derek Drew
> Founder, ConsumerSearch.com
> Washington DC / New York
> derekdrew@derekmail.com
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