Date:         Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:46:00 -0800
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 8 Secretive Part Numbers For One Fuel Pump?
Comments: To: Derek Drew <derekdrew@derekmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <vanagon%2010122121451057@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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We discussed this in early summer. The story was that the Chinese made
$46.00 pumps were very noisy and not worth saving $100.

Apparently you get what you pay for!  ;)

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Derek Drew <derekdrew@derekmail.com> wrote:

> As far as I can determine, here are the part numbers for the same
> Vanagon Bosch Fuel pump:
>
> 0 580 463 016
> 0 580 464 070
> 69713
> 69469
> GFP301
> 0580463016
> 0580464070
> 251 906 091
>
> All these are Bosch part numbers and the last one is a VW number.
>
> The matter is important because if you go onto ebay, say, and search
> for them using this query:
>
> Bosch ("0 580 463 016","0 580 464
> 070",0580463016,0580464070,69713,69469,"251 906 091",GFP301,"GFP 301")
>
> Then you see many pumps, many of which are original genuine Bosch, at
> prices from $46 to $200.
>
> I am wondering if this is like the Mattress industry where everybody
> sells the same few parts under many secretive part numbering schemes
> so consumers cannot compare prices.
>
> Or, is there a reason some of us are buying the Vanagon pump for $150
> at Rockauto and our favorite vanagon vendors, but ebayers are sending
> out what seems to be the exact same part for $50 if you know the part
> number to look under.
>
> As far as I can tell, these all should be the same 130lph to 190lph
> Bosch 6 amp pump. (lph = liters per hour and the matter is topical
> with higher horsepower engines, which need more liters per hour, and
> we are wondering if the Vanagon pump is enough for 212 horsepower.
>
> =========================================
>
> The matter came up on a Samba thread where were are having fun with a
> kind of a Vanapalooza fest where I am converting my vans to 6
> cylindar 3.0L Subaru engines, which you can see in this 7 page thread
> here:
>
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=440872&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100
>
>
>  _______________
> Derek Drew
> Founder, ConsumerSearch.com
> Washington DC / New York
> derekdrew@derekmail.com
> 202-966-7907 (Call the number at left normally)
>                (alt/cell for diligent calling only): 703-408-1532
>



--
Jake

1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX - 'The Grey Van'
1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Subie - 'Dixie'

Crescent Beach, BC

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