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Date:         Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:50:35 -0500
Reply-To:     Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Larry Alofs <lalofs@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: 87 Cruise Control--followup
Comments: To: David Vickery <david_vickery@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To:  <625178.94811.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Sounds like a ground problem. If the ground wire for the pump also shows 12v, then it isn't connected to a solid ground. Do you have a wiring diagram?

Larry A.

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:37 PM, David Vickery <david_vickery@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well the pump works fine, so it must be something else.  I connected the pump to the battery directly and it runs.  BTW, the other wire is for a valve; it clicks when you give it power like it is supposed to.  And the pump runs when you connect brown and green to battery.  The puzzling thing is that I get 12.x volts at the plug on the same connectors that I connected straight to the battery, but at the plug it won't run.  I even cut the plug and connected directly to the wires to be sure I was getting a good connection.  I don't know how it can show 12.x volts at the plug but not have enough power to run the pump.  I am not that good at using my multimeter but maybe there is a way to diagnose further. Maybe something is loose enough that it shows it has power, but it isn't able to give any current?  I did set the multimeter to 10A and tried to see what the pump was drawing, but with the pump not running, I don't know if the value I got has any meaning >  .05amps.  If no one has any suggestions, I will be headed to the shop. > Thanks > Dave > > -- On Fri, 12/24/10, David Vickery <david_vickery@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > >> From: David Vickery <david_vickery@YAHOO.COM> >> Subject: 87 Cruise Control troubleshooting >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 5:07 PM >> Hi all, >> >> Hoping someone can help with my 1987 stock cruise control >> problem. >> >> Background:  My cruise was working well now it won't >> come on.  I went through the Bentley troubleshooting >> diagram with a test light and passed the first several >> checks, including the tests for the clutch and brake >> switches.  Since I passed those tests, obviously the >> fuse is fine and the on/off button works.  When I got >> to the test for the vacuum pump motor, jumping #4 pin with >> ground it says I should hear the pump come on.  I don't >> hear anything.  With the ignition on and the cruise >> control in the on position, the test light lights up but no >> sounds from the pump in back. >> >> I tried another pump today (used and unknown condition) and >> I don't hear anything with it either.  So I am >> wondering if it could be a wiring issue or possibly the 2nd >> pump is bad.  With the #4 jumper in place and a volt >> meter at the pump in back, I read 12 volts at the plug using >> + to green wire and negative on the brown wire.  I >> don't know what the green and white wire is for but I don't >> get 12 volts when I try substituting that for the green wire >> with my voltmeter.  When I had the pumps out, I tried >> putting 12 volts to them directly and I don't hear anything, >> but I am not sure if I should be using the green/white or >> green or both with brown going to negative. >> >> If anyone knows how I can test the pump directly and what >> it should sound like if it is working, I would be very >> appreciative. >> >> Thanks, Dave >> > > > >


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