Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:54:50 -0600
Reply-To: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 8 Secretive Part Numbers For One Fuel Pump?
In-Reply-To: <4D12BB28.4010502@cisaz.com>
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I've got acces to a falco(? not sure of the brand) that I was given by a
neighbour that was for my 73 Beetle.. His has a sleeper hot rod Bug and it
could not supply the required fuel, but he says would
work for my van(91 GL AT 2.1)>Never tried it,but you can dial in the fuel
reqs as needed. I can research if needed. LMK if it helps and disregard if
not cuz I have a to deal with a nicely proportioned Latina that demands my
immediate attention. ;-)
Michael in San Antonio
91GL Weekender AT 2.1L 'Gringo'
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Michael A. Radtke <wa7zpu@cisaz.com> wrote:
> Hi Derek,
>
> First, be sure that you need a fuel pump.
>
> The first time that I thought that I needed one because it was noisy, I
> replace it with a used one which turned out to be just as bad. That was
> years ago, but this list recommended that I replace my fuel filter. I
> did so and both of the pumps were quiet. That has fixed the problem
> every few years since.
>
> Fast forward to this year and a noisy pump yet again. I replaced the
> fuel filter and it was quiet for a few months but then it started making
> noise again. I replaced the filter again with no improvement. So, I
> ran a wire through the fuel line line in the tank and got some crud out.
> A quiet pump yet again.
>
> Mike -- Phoenix, AZ
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 8 Secretive Part Numbers For One Fuel Pump?
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:42:35 -0500
> From: Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM>
> Reply-To: Derek Drew <derekdrew@DEREKMAIL.COM>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> As far as I can determine, here are the part numbers for the same
> Vanagon Bosch Fuel pump:
>
> 0 580 463 016
> 0 580 464 070
> 69713
> 69469
> GFP301
> 0580463016
> 0580464070
> 251 906 091
>
> All these are Bosch part numbers and the last one is a VW number.
>
> The matter is important because if you go onto ebay, say, and search
> for them using this query:
>
> Bosch ("0 580 463 016","0 580 464
> 070",0580463016,0580464070,69713,69469,"251 906 091",GFP301,"GFP 301")
>
> Then you see many pumps, many of which are original genuine Bosch, at
> prices from $46 to $200.
>
> I am wondering if this is like the Mattress industry where everybody
> sells the same few parts under many secretive part numbering schemes
> so consumers cannot compare prices.
>
> Or, is there a reason some of us are buying the Vanagon pump for $150
> at Rockauto and our favorite vanagon vendors, but ebayers are sending
> out what seems to be the exact same part for $50 if you know the part
> number to look under.
>
> As far as I can tell, these all should be the same 130lph to 190lph
> Bosch 6 amp pump. (lph = liters per hour and the matter is topical
> with higher horsepower engines, which need more liters per hour, and
> we are wondering if the Vanagon pump is enough for 212 horsepower.
>
> =========================================
>
> The matter came up on a Samba thread where were are having fun with a
> kind of a Vanapalooza fest where I am converting my vans to 6
> cylindar 3.0L Subaru engines, which you can see in this 7 page thread
> here:
>
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=440872&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100
>
>
> _______________
> Derek Drew
> Founder, ConsumerSearch.com
> Washington DC / New York
> derekdrew@derekmail.com
> 202-966-7907 (Call the number at left normally)
> (alt/cell for diligent calling only): 703-408-1532
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