Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:18:17 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: OFF: AA doctors
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looks like someone posted on the wrong group. ( 'maybe' lol )
moderator/s ?
happy end of the old year everyone !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Stevens" <mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: AA doctors
On Dec 31, 2010, at 1:35 PM, KC Joe wrote:
> Joe here, alcoholic.
>
> The self-proclaimed 'AA doctors' should be held legally accountable for
> their patients deaths.
>
> I take my medication as prescribed at the times prescribed. For me,
> taking
> the prescribed medication is simply a notch on the rung of going to all
> lengths to stay sober one day at a time.
snip
>
> After talking to me for a while,
> her husband Robert went to the parking lot, got into my car and took the
> 9mm
> out then they took me to the hospital where I stayed for two weeks. I was
> properly diagnosed and was prescribed proper medication that keeps me
> sane.
> I receive no 'high' from it nor am I looking for one.
Precisely. This subject gets lots of mileage online and in the F2F AA world
as we
all know. Don't know why. With so many old timers in my hood, proclaiming
knowledge of recovery and the basic text of recovery, you'd think that page
133 would
be included in that context (recovery by-the-book) ... but it's not, and by
just enough that
this misconception is still being proselytized.
I have had to admit that the death (natural causes incident to old age) of
an old timer
around here gave me a real sense of relief. He was one of the primary
perpetrators
of his way of recovery and interpretation of our book, and must have told
100's of
"us" over the years that if "mood-altering medications" (not drugs) were
being used, that the
person was not sober. The usual results followed, by those not well informed
and
easily influenced by .b on page 60. Thankfully, that message has in fact
toned down
and lost some purchase with his passing. Strange what some of us alcoholics
can
contrive out of fairly simple black text on white paper.
By the way, just for interpretation/definition sake: as Joe said, he's
taking prescribed
medication. If I'm using medications that are not prescribed to me, I'm
taking drugs,
not medications, and am doing so "for-the-high". By implication I'm saying
that it's
not the "chemical" being ingested, it's the motive and intent.
I wonder why it is at times, that what's in The Book is used like a club;
and what's NOT in there
is also used like it is recovery from alcoholism, even if it's contrary to
what is in The Book?
Hoping your new year has good things in store.
Bob
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