Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:23:47 -0800
Reply-To: cesar quiros <cesarquiros@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: cesar quiros <cesarquiros@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: A question of ORDER
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Wow very bold of you to let these kids get a great experience like that. I second the Bentley; especially if they are going to be doing the rebuild as well.
All vehicles manual will teach you how to do things step by step, the order is not necessarily fixed in stone. Experience and knowledge will let you use the book as a guidelines and find shortcuts. But first time around you need to follow the book is what I have found.
If anything these kids will need to learn to to read manuals as well as work on the vehicle. So this will be a truely great learning experience for them. I know when I was in Auto shop in High School are teacher did not help out that much, made is look in the books on how to do things only if we got in serious trouble woul dhe help out, some thought he was a hard a$$ I thought he was a great practical teacher and my favorite.
Good luck.
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:44:47 -0500
> From: dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET
> Subject: Re: A question of ORDER
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> At 12:05 PM 1/6/2011, A PETER MARSH wrote:
> >I know the cooling system has to be disconnected and I know the
> >exhaust system has to come off first - or do I? (I am only assuming
> >this is what happens.)
>
> Peter, this tells me you haven't read the Bentley instructions
> yet. Go read them. Also buy a Haynes from Bus Depot (sole US
> supplier) for a less factory-oriented view on things.
>
> If you haven't got a Bentley, get one pronto, and make sure it's the
> paper copy. Your instructor and his students will find it much
> easier to work with, and practical aspects aside it's better for the
> spirit of the thing to have three pounds of Vanagon in your
> hands. If it's a um well-loved copy that's much better.
>
> Once you've gotten what you can from the books, bump heads with the
> shop guy -- preferably hire him to come out for the evening and drink
> beer with you while you look at books and beasts and write up a list
> of questions together. Send those questions. You'll get better
> answers, and more freely given ones as well.
>
> Yours,
> David
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