Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:38:58 -0600
Reply-To: mcneely4@COX.NET
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: first time buyer
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---- Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Oh good grief!
>
> *"The buyer doesn't know if you are a reseller of one vehicle after another
> that you grab up from wherever you can get them, and try to flip them as
> soon as possible, or someone who is selling his old, beloved, and well cared
> for honey bucket."*
>
> Surely if I were a curbside reseller I would tell you a well rehearsed story
> calculated to put you at ease and increase the chance of a sale.
>
> And McNeely, around here a 'Honey Bucket' is a portapotti! ;)
Might describe some Vanagons "to a T."
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > ---- mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET> wrote:
> > > It is all a matter of degree and he said he would give that buyer the
> > > boot so you would be walking already. Some buyers know almost nothing
> > > about cars in general and even less about Vanagons in particular. I
> > > would give the boot as well to someone like that who I could tell was
> > > working from a canned list of questions as their basis for otherwise
> > > ignorant buying. They should not buy a 20-30 year old vehicle and I
> > > would generally decline to be the one who sold them one. Some people
> > > would use such a list as a basis for trying to reduce the price.
> > > Depending on the circumstances those people would likely get the boot
> > > from me as well unless they uncovered a real issue that I was unaware of
> > > and hadn't already allowed for. Every one of our vintage vehicles has
> > > things wrong with it to one degree or another. I would not pretend
> > > otherwise to a buyer. A buyer who expected wholly unrealistic perfection
> > > should also expect to pay unrealistically as well. Like GoWesty vehicle
> > > buyers perhaps?
> >
> > "unless they uncovered a real issue that I was unaware of
> > > and hadn't already allowed for."
> >
> > But you would not give them a chance to uncover the "real issue." You may
> > feel justified in your behavior, but if your vehicle is what you represent
> > it to be, then you should help the buyer to come to understand that
> > particular vehicle, on terms that the buyer can benefit from. If you are
> > not willing to do that, then why are you in the business of selling a
> > vehicle? You give, by your attitude, prospective buyers reason not to trust
> > that your vehicle is as you represent it.
> >
> > I am not a complete idiot about vehicles, and I do have legitimate concerns
> > in dealing with a person I do not know. Anyone who doesn't understand that
> > ............ .
> >
> > I have walked from sellers who would not answer my questions, and I will do
> > so again. "Why are you selling the vehicle?" is something to give the buyer
> > the boot for? Good grief .............. . The buyer doesn't know if you
> > are a reseller of one vehicle after another that you grab up from wherever
> > you can get them, and try to flip them as soon as possible, or someone who
> > is selling his old, beloved, and well cared for honey bucket.
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > > Dave Mcneely wrote:
> > > > With all due respect, someone looking to buy a vehicle is looking to
> > take a great risk. That person does not usually know the seller. this is
> > his or her chance to get to know the vehicle. A seller who does not want to
> > answer questions or help the prospective buyer get to know the vehicle is
> > one from whom a buyer would be well advised to walk away. "Trust me" is the
> > most dangerous advice ever given by a vehicle seller to a prospective buyer.
> > Sorry Dave, but I would always walk from a seller with the attitude you've
> > expressed.
> > > >
> > > > McNeely
> > > >
> > > > ---- David Vickery<david_vickery@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > >> Al, If someone shows up with a list like that, they would get the
> > boot. I am the kind of person you want to buy a van from but my patience
> > would be exhausted with that level of questioning from a newbie.
> > > >>
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
>
> 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX - 'The Grey Van'
> 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Subie - 'Dixie'
>
> Crescent Beach, BC
>
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David McNeely
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