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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:08:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: first time buyer
Comments: To: J Stewart <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET>
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re see the other people also, they glare at me as if I robbed them..

I just tell them .. it is a USED car .. and a 20+ year old one at that . and that I've informed them about the van honestly .. that 'anything' can happen to a 20 + year old used car .. that they shouldn't get into it unless they understand vanagons take special care and understanding. And once they drive it 10 feet after buying it, it's there's.

I'll help them out if there's a problem ...like be reasonable ..but they have to understand ... it's 'on them' ...........that they be half smart about inspecting and buying it .. and then it's there baby. I also tell them I know *I* could operate it successfully for years and years ..but I don't know that they can. I would even tell them, 'do not buy it unless you think you are up for what it takes to own and operate a vanagon.' Almost like they have 'to qualify' to buy a van from me. - like if you doubt their ability to deal with it responsibly as time goes on, try to talk them out of it. It helps a lot to sell to the right buyer. For every van for sale 'the right buyer' is out there. Just gotta connect that right buyer with the van for sale. Scott www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "J Stewart" <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:33 AM Subject: Re: first time buyer

> 25 Vanagons for sale on Craigslist at one time? I haven't seen 25 total > for sale on the N. Virginia Craigslist in the last 5 years! And the last 2 > I have bought I found on Craigslist. Jeff > > > > Jeff Stewart > > > ----- "Solomon Schechter" <brexcavator@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > > > To me, buying anything over a few hundred bucks is a few hour experience. > I > just bought a flat panel big screen TV. It took my father and I all day > comparing, wheeling and dealing, etc. until I found the right price on the > right > TV. On my local Craigs List, there are 25 Vanagons for sale. If I show up > to > buy one with my coveralls, flashlight, a few hand tools and get a bad > vibe, > fine, I will move on. I am not about to invest thousands of dollars into a > 30 > year old toy only to bring it home and find all of its issues. > > When I do a checklist, it is more of a list of how much it will cost to > get it > in the shape I want it to be in. I will weigh the list of the three or > four > that I like and see which one is the better deal. Sometimes the cheaper > van > with the most issues is a better deal than the expensive van with very > minimal > issues. > > I buy and sell a lot of VWs. I save them from the crusher, clean them up, > put > some work into them and find them a new loving home. I tend to shy away > from > selling to people who don't inspect the engine and get under it and give > it a > good once over. They are the ones who are going to call in a few moths > saying > that he lemon I sold them died and thy want their money back. I tend to go > through the sale with a curios buyer and show them everything from front > to back > that I have seen. I often run into these folks still driving the VW I sold > them. They always want to show me their rig with pride and show the > improvements made. I see the other people also, they glare at me as if I > robbed > them.. > > To each his own, but I will continue to be objective. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Sent: Sun, January 23, 2011 6:34:03 AM > Subject: Re: first time buyer > > Ok, so I won't buy a van from you, if I ever need another one. what is it > with > folks who are not capable of allowing other folks to exercise their means > of > ascertaining whether something is right for them or not? Just because > someone > uses a checklist doesn't mean (s)he is not worth dealing with. It just > means > that (s)he is systematic in answering questions for himself. > > All you guys who are so impatient with others .............. you make me > impatient. > > mcneely > > ---- chris and/or ruth <populuxe59@YAHOO.COM> wrote: >> Re: first time buyer >> >> Did you follow the link to the Vanagon.com Checklist? Did you read it? >> It's unreasonable. >> I picked up our Multivan's buyer at the airport and he asked me some >> questions >>and we did a test drive. If he would have insisted on that checklist I >>would >>have driven him either back to the airport or the bus station. >> >> I think that checklist was wrote up when Vanagons were still new. >> >> C Christensen >> >> --------------------------------------mcneely >>wrote;--------------------------------------------------------------- >> Checklists are the norm in all kinds of quality control. Finally, even in >> = >> surgery. Always have been in aircraft operation. If I want to use a >> check= >> list, and a seller doesn't want to deal with that, well, there are other >> ve= >> hicles, being sold by folks who are get it. >> >> mcneely > > -- > David McNeely


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