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Date:         Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:20:05 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Friday: Is it a Van or what?
Comments: To: Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
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short comment .. I defenitly don't think Vanagons should be called a 'Bus'

the older ones really are VW Buses ....and look like a rear engine school bus even .. but not Vanagons. they're Vanagons here.. and if they have to be T3's or T25's in other places...fine, but Vanagon is a fine term for them, perhaps not for Double Cab Syncro's say .. but for regular Vanagons .. westy's and 7 passenger ones etc..they're Vanagons to me.

little known but early Honda Civic station wagons .. some of those were called Wagovans...pretty sure, Don't think I dreamed it.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren Busch" <starwagen@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Friday: Is it a Van or what?

> RE: What is 'It'? > You are going to get a lot of responses to you question and they are going > to vary a lot. But having come into the VW community (alternate spelling: > Cult) late in life I've listened to a lot of VW people talk about their > vehicles in many different terms. I've arrived at a couple of labels that > seem to be appropriate. For the early VW Transporters, they are Buses. > They have earned that distinct and venerable title. If differentiating > within various versions from over the years 'Splittie' or 'Bay' pins them > down a little tighter as to the vintage. Then adding 'Camper' or Westy or > Westfalia further defines things. For the Vanagon I've adopted the > generic > 'Van', not Bus. I think Bus should be reserved for the pre Vanagon VW > Transporters. BTW, Transporter is the more official VW label for the > Buses, > Vanagons, Eurovans, etc. As for the Eurovans they are just that, Eurovan > or > Eurovan Camper when I talk about them. > And then there is the often confused designations of 'Transporter' and > 'Type'. For VW all Buses and their descendent's are 'Type 2' or > Transporters. But within the Transporter line there are T2s ( > 'Transporter > 2's' , Buses), T3s (Vanagons), T4s (Eurovans) and now the T5. And to > further confuse everything the Vanagon name was only used in North > America, > VW put other labels on the Transporter 3 in other parts of the world. And > then in the UK, what we call the Vanagon is often referred to as a T25 > after > the '25' in the VIN number. > Is their a 'Right Way' to refer to our Vanagons? I don't think so except > maybe as 'My Money Pit'.


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