Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:47:54 -0800
Reply-To: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
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From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: clutch pedal wear
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I don't think you even have to remove the dash if you do what Rich
did. The pedal should come out below.
But I still say, if you have dash off anyway, pull the pedal assembly
as a unit :)
Its interesting that you had no wear in the pedal or pin.
alistair
On 1-Feb-11, at 7:33 PM, Richard Koerner wrote:
> About a year ago or so, I had some "clicking" when engaging clutch
> pedal. At the time on the Vanagon List, there was a thread about
> "ovaling" of the hole and wearing of the clevis pin; I was sure that
> was my situation for my 85 Vanagon with 170,000 miles or so. So I
> went to the trouble (not bad at all folks, just step-by-step, and
> for me it was a one-person operation in a narrow garage) of pulling
> dash to get to the clutch pedal.
>
> No, I did not have to remove the whole cluster and go replace the
> hydraulic fluid. I was able to (somehow, not bad but don't remember
> details) pop off the C-ring, slide out the shaft, and somehow thread
> the clutch pedal up and out, or was it down and out. Anyway, got it
> out. Turns out....NO WEAR!!! Everything looked nearly new, nice
> and round hole, and the pin only showed a little shininess at the
> wear point. I lubed pin and hole and everything else I could see
> with grease gun grease, and put the whole mess back together.
> That's where it got harder...getting that C-clip back in the
> retaining groove....but somehow I did it and I'm no mechanic nor do
> I have fancy tools. Hardest part is the "body English", working
> sideways and upside down in that cramped area....I know you guys
> know what I mean.
>
> Result? No clicking, smooth operation, and now that's been 20,000
> miles or so (mostly long distance driving for ALL my miles, that of
> course makes a difference; daily drivers are going to have more wear
> for sure).
>
> Just giving my results.....and to let you know that to remove clutch
> pedal you don't have to do a hydraulic oil bleeding and all.
> (PS....later, when I had a clutch slave cylinder failure, my
> mechanic did the fluid flushing and all...so no moisture for
> me...but I get it changed every 2 years...don't want corrosion
> hassles.)
>
> Also, Benny Boys website was invaluable to me with regard to this
> job of dash removal. Thanks Ben!
>
> Rich
> 85 Vanagon
> San Diego
>
> --- On Tue, 2/1/11, Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA> wrote:
>
> From: Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
> Subject: clutch pedal wear
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 6:52 PM
>
> Having seen the wear in the clutch pedal clevis connection in both my
> '82 and '86 vanagons, I have to imagine that most manual trans.
> Vanagons have the same thing going on. Its not a big deal unless it
> squeaks and drives you crazy with the noise, or it causes the pedal to
> be rough, or wear completely and fail.
>
> If you ever take the dash off for heater work, spend the extra time to
> pull out the pedal assembly to have a look at it. It is a fair bit
> more work, (have to bleed hydraulics after), but I think its worth it.
>
> alistair
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