Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:43:29 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: camping amidst bears, safety question
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I like that 'misremembered' ..
I'll have to keep that handy for future use.
that's almost as good as 'mispoke'..
I mispoke when I said there's only one kind of AMC head for both wbxr
engines ..
but I'm sure I didn't misremember that someone once wrote that on a forum
like this.
well I'll be..
misspeak,
misspoke,
and misremember,
are all recongized by dictionary.com.
for those who care ..
correct english is not 'where do you live AT?"..
it's "Where do you live? "
and 'anyways' is not a word.
( and adverbs, whatever those are, used to have an LY ending..as in 'drive
carefully.' Used to.
And still should. )
but ....I wonder ...
why even bother to even know what correct english is anymore ..?
few care apparently and many don't even know.
Seems a matter of self-respect and respect for our group selves to me.
Tell me Canadian readers and posters..please ,
in Canda has 'where did you park your car AT?' krept in pervasively ..
to the point that police and tv annoucners use it always ?
anyways ..sure sounds terminally hick to me !
I have not noticed poor english to be common among Canadians at all really.
It's refreshing !
and I just bet that fewer than only 29 % of people fail to graduate from
high school in Canada.
Stated more clearly , an appalling 29 % of american high shcool students
don't graduate these days.
and it will never be said that I can spell fer beans, that's for sure !
anyway ..to education and intelligence.
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: <mcneely4@cox.net>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>; "Scott Daniel - Turbovans"
<scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: camping amidst bears, safety question
> Well, Scott, I evidently misremembered concerning this incident. The
> people had evidently stowed their food properly, and I thus maligned them,
> for which I am sorry.
>
> So far as the incident on the trail, well, that is different from an
> attack on sleeping people in a campground. If the bear who surprised the
> folks/was surprised from them did not consume the killed person, and was
> in fact frightened away by other hikers, rather than being habituated to
> people, it likely would develop aversion to them. A good thing, and that
> bear would not be particularly dangerous in the future.
>
> mcneely
> ---- Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>> deffenitely a sad thing about the 'dominant speices' offing a noble
>> forest
>> beast.
>>
>> not a lot of empthy for the humans sleeping with their food..
>> though many of us have probably done that a time or two.
>>
>> here's one thing I think is great..
>> South of Anchorage Alaska a few years. ago ......
>> perhaps near Goodwood Ski area ..somewhere in that area anyway ..
>>
>> some people, maybe a coupole, were hiking on a national forest
>> trail...and
>> accidently suprised a bear .
>> I think a woman hiker got killed.
>>
>> rather than rushing out to find the 'bad bear' etc..
>> the authoaties just said ..
>> well, the bear was in it its habitat ...doing what bears do there.
>>
>> I was very impressed with that attitude.
>>
>> I have a great book I bought in Bella Coola BC once ( fantastic drive to
>> that remote place, btw ..and very bear country ..signs warning about that
>> too ) ..
>> the book is 'Bear Attacks in North America'..
>> great stories in that book, True ones.
>>
>> scott
>> turbovans
>>
>> scott
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 2:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: camping amidst bears, safety question
>>
>>
>> > that is the incident I mentioned in an earlier post, Scott. Two people
>> > were killed, attacked in their tents. Mama and two cubs, cubs were
>> > older
>> > cubs. They were relocated. Mama was euthanized. Mama had been guilty
>> > of
>> > camp raiding before. Too bad about the two people, but too bad about
>> > the
>> > bears, too. They were punished for trying to make a living. At least
>> > the
>> > guys had committed a crime (they had food in their tent, a regular old
>> > on
>> > the ground tent. In grizzly country.
>> >
>> > mcneely
>> >
>> > ---- Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
>> >> exactly.
>> >> last summer, near Kalispell MT I think..
>> >> a tent-sleeping camper or two were attacked right in their tents at
>> >> night..
>> >> one person killed for sure.
>> >> I think it was a mama bear and two cubs ..
>> >> but right smack in a normally-feels-safe national forest campground I
>> >> believe.
>> >>
>> >> that would be an interesting way to go ..
>> >> attacked and killed right in your tent by a bear. Probably chewed on
>> >> ,
>> >> if
>> >> not drug off and partially eaten too.
>> >>
>> >> 'mostly' bears don't attack humans unprovoked...
>> >> but there are exceptions.
>> >> I think they were grizzlies.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Mark L. Hineline" <hineline@ocotillofield.net>
>> >> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>> >> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:17 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: camping amidst bears, safety question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > And try to forget that your sleeping body is, under the right
>> >> > conditions,
>> >> > food.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mark
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Keep everything
>> >> >> associated with food completely separate from your sleeping body.
>> >> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > David McNeely
>>
>
> --
> David McNeely
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