Date:         Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:16:15 -0800
Reply-To:     Gary Bawden <goldfieldgary@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Gary Bawden <goldfieldgary@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Hose clamp pliers was: Sealant necessary for coolant hoses?
Comments: cc: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>,
          David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
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Check out the 'real' ones (not for Harbor Freight aficionados):
http://www.samstagsales.com/images/hz798-9.jpg

They are made in several iterations, all the Hazet ones start with
798- - which may do double duty as a price guide  :^)

Gary


> Date:    Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:53:15 -0800
> From:    Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> Subject: Re: Sealant necessary for coolant hoses?
>
> cool,
> send me a link showing a true spring clamp pliers please.
>
> I'll check with my FLAPS next time ..
> or a snap-on tool truck, etc.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Sealant necessary for coolant hoses?
>
>
>> At 12:15 AM 2/24/2011, Scott Daniel  - Turbovans wrote:
>>>I just don't like things near my face or hands that can jump or
>>>spring at me or instantly out of control.
>>
>> Ok, leaving aside your other points which I'll think about more
>> slowly - if you actually use the *proper* tool, i.e. a spring clamp
>> pliers designed specifically for band-type clamps, they will never
>> jump out of the tool.  Using *anything* else, including spring clamp
>> pliers designed for the round wire type clamps, is asking to get hurt.
>>
>> The proper tool (as well as specifying that it's for band-type spring
>> clamps) has a deep groove on one (rotating) jaw and a flat cup on the
>> other one; and of course a ratchet.  The combination gives total
>> control of the clamp under all circumstances.  And unlike the
>> wire-type, it's totally non-fiddly to secure on the clamp.  I was
>> reminded of this tonight as I reinstalled a dishwasher and had to
>> deal with a wire spring clamp on the drain hose with fairly poor
>> access.  What a stinking nuisance to get everything lined up just so
>> and then not let the first end slip out while I captured the other end.
>> Faugh!
>>
>> I would not only not work on either type of spring clamp with the
>> wrong tool, I wouldn't stay within thirty feet of someone who was.
>>
>> Yours,
>> David
>