Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:28:52 -0800
Reply-To: Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Robert Fisher <garciasghostvw@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Auto trans - 2nd gear brake band adjusting screw
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Port and starboard work pretty well... unless you don't know port from
starboard. : )
Cya,
Robert
On Mar 10, 2011 4:34 PM, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> yes ..
> so now I guess it's DS and PS ....
> and maybe CS too, for 'curb side.'
>
> and FS for front side.
> etc.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@gmail.com>
> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Auto trans - 2nd gear brake band adjusting screw
>
>
> Maybe it means 'Daniel Stevens' or 'Daniel Scott'. My serious guess is
> 'Driver's Side'.
>
>
> BenT
>
> sent from my electronic leash
>
> On Mar 10, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
>
>> hi Dan ..
>> it does, very much ..
>> but say what DS stands for please.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel O Stevens" <dosteven@SYR.EDU>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: Auto trans - 2nd gear brake band adjusting screw
>>
>>
>> One age/wear hazard that can make the 2nd gear shift soft or irregular is
>> if
>> there's a failure in the 2nd gear piston mentioned by Ken under the
>> circlips
>> on the DS.
>> If the rubber piston seals are cracked, aged to shrink or in my Brother's
>> case the small internal retaining E-clip fell off and wedged into the
>> pistons sidewall and inhibited the stroke.
>> Service to the 2nd gear piston & seals can be done with trans in place,
>> though you will likely need to drop the pan & valve body if you pull it
to
>> get the 2nd gear band in position on the "fingers"
>>
>> On Mom's AT vanagon the 2n'd gear cover popped off while she was driving
>> it.
>> Creating a huge cloud of smoke as the ATF poured out onto the hot
exhaust.
>> The Circlip had grit, and oxidation under it which undermined it's groove
>> and ability to retain the huge pressures.
>> I used a cheap Bar clamp with one head reversed to push (screw
adjustment)
>> the piston in to allow reseating the retaining Circlip. (after cleaning
>> the
>> groove of detris)
>>
>> Hope this offers some insight.
>>
>> Dan Stevens
>> VW Club of Central NY www.vwccny.com
>> Empire VW camping club www.empirevwcamping.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:42:13 -0800
>> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>> Subject: Re: Auto trans - 2nd gear brake band adjusting screw
>>
>> thanks for the warning.
>> I'm not sure that I'm going to be messing with that screw.
>> I expect that it should have more than enough stroke to compensate for
>> wear
>> all right. .
>> just thought I'd ask.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dennis Haynes" <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: Auto trans - 2nd gear brake band adjusting screw
>>
>>
>>> If you don't know what you're doing tightening that screw too much is an
>>> easy way to burn the tranny up and if you get the band to slip off the
>>> piston on one side or the screw you get to remove the valve body to try
>>> to
>>> get it back together.
>>>
>>> The piston has more than enough stroke to compensate for wear after the
>>> initial adjustment during assembly. If second gear is slipping you will
>>> need
>>> to open it up and fix everything that is wrong.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:04 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Auto trans - 2nd gear brake band adjusting screw
>>>
>>> Hi all..
>>> has anyone ever fiddled with that adjustment ?
>>> I am aware of what Bentley says ..
>>> just wondering if anyone has tried say, a qtr turn this way or that .
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>> scott
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