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Date:         Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:50:30 -0800
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: And now - still trying for NEW TIRES
Comments: To: The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com>
In-Reply-To:  <6F85950D83BB43EABC3155B43D0356C1@RON>
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Well no Ron, MY standard load is as I specified, as is MY maximum load. You don't need to drag Syncros or 267 lb drivers or passengers into the equation, they don't apply to MY load. Stop trying to frighten people into buying your tires.

Driving on a Korean truck tire with a 25 year old tread design and compound and a 5.1 inch tread width is not as safe as driving on a German or USA made 3 year old tread design and compound with a 7.5 inch tread width. There is a reason that some of us are paying more for better tires and its not because we're stupid.

I understand that you are just trying to sell tires but I don't care for your fear-mongering sales pitch.

Jake

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, The Bus Depot <vanagon@busdepot.com> wrote:

> > So the published data says that I need a tire that's rated > > for ~6% above the normal load for my van which is ~3990 lbs.? > > And that passenger tires are good for my maximum load (5000 > > lbs) plus 9% (450 lbs) ie 5450 lbs.? > > > > Good to know! That means my 1709 lb winter passenger car > > tires and 1521 lb summer passenger car tires should be just > > fine according to Chicken Little? > > > > I made that decision all by myself some twenty years ago but > > thanks for the validation. ;) > > > I'll ignore the childish name calling and just answer your queston > factually. > > No, you are misunderstanding how to calculate this. If your passenger car > tire is rated at 1521 lbs, then it must be derated by 9% as per the D.O.T. > So you are starting off with 1384 lbs, not 1521. That number must be > higher > than the gross weight of the vehicle. Actually this is determined by axle > weight divided by two. On a 2 wheel drive non-camper the GAWR of the rear > axle is 2866 lbs, divided by two is 1433 lbs. If you have a Syncro it is > 1521 lbs. At 1384 lbs your summer tires are underrated. Your winter tires > at 1709 lbs (load index 99) minus 9 percent are adequate. > > In ADDITION to this - not as an alternative to it - the standard load of > your van cannot exceed 94% of the above capacities - so 1301 lbs on your > summer tire and 1461 lbs on your winter tire. The standard load is defined > as you plus two passengers plus a nominal amount of contents, assuming that > you do not exceed that weight on a regular basis. It would be higher on a > camper or Syncro due to supplied equipment. According to Roadhouse.com, > the > actual unladen rear axle weight of various measured Vanagons was around > 2000 > lbs (going up to 2600 on, for example, a Vanagon Syncro Camper). Allowing > for, say, 800 lbs for 3 people plus belongings, which is slightly generous > but not over the top, this would be around 1200 lbs per tire for a standard > Vanagon Your summer tire meets that condition if you have a non camper. > But > it doesn't matter, because the tire must meet BOTH conditions, not just > one, > and it falls far short of the first one. > > I hope this clarifies things for you. > > - Ron Salmon > The Bus Depot, Inc. > www.busdepot.com > (215) 234-VWVW > > _____________________________________________ > Toll-Free for Orders by PART # : 1-866-BUS-DEPOT >

-- Jake

1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX - 'The Grey Van' 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Subie - 'Dixie'

Crescent Beach, BC

www.thebassspa.com www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27


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