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Date:         Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:04:29 -0500
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: bio based motor oil (no vanagon content)
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At 06:03 PM 3/11/2011, Dave Mcneely wrote: >from a Hawaiian lube shop further said that it "will not biodegrade >in your engine, but only in the environment, where bacteria are >found." Hmmm. What if a vehicle is left setting for an extended >time? When I took environmental microbiology, many years ago, we >sampled radiators and recovered culturable bacteria that degraded >ethylene glycol.

Bacterial contamination is a major problem in diesel fuel...

Their own website is a little more specific: >GET's proprietary process produces saturated chain of carbon mainly >in the 16 to 20 carbon lengths that mimic crude oil distillates in >structure. Biodegradability is defined by an ASTM specification that >puts the material for 28 days in contact with environmentally >present bacteria and measures the proportion that is broken down >back into elemental form. The conditions of the engine and the >environment are vastly different. So, no, it doesn't biodegrade in >the engine. We have engine tests now that show that G-Oil meets or >exceeds the performance of ASTM reference oils in these conditions >and have an ongoing program to continue to obtain additional test data.

The stuff's been around since '07 and got API certification in '09. What do you suppose is the sustainable rate of beef tallow production, and how will that affect what's being done with the tallow now (frying oil, I suspect)?

The example of PB Blaster shows that just because the can is nasty, the stuff inside isn't *necessarily* bad...

Did you read the paper on Canola oil synthetic? They were pretty proud of its performance...

Yours, David


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