Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:03:32 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: camper conversion other than Volkswagen
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whew..
pretty strong response..
my only thought ..personally ..
sure ...to the original poster ..........go in that 'whole other direction'
if you want...
but there are so many things you won't have with a non-vanagon camper ..
such as....................
a great support group with this list.
the near world-wide VW family..
things like Vanagon Rescue Squad ..
or Larry Chase's Roadhuas site ...( feels like I have that slightly not
right ..but you know what I mean )
and nice handling sporty van that very fixable and not too-crazy-modern
tech.
and a lot of other things like that.
for me ....it's like I wouldn't take one of those big things for free..
it's truck based even ..and 'murikun' .........not something I'd ever drive.
.
I mean if you want to joint the plaid pilyester pants masses..
go ahead ..
Vanagons are getting to be ..more and more ..and have always been somewhat
( VW Vans in general ) a 'religion' ...you drive it becasue you love it and
you chose it for exactly what it is ..
a VW van ..not just 'some van' that happens to work.
so those that don't see that ..
sure ..drive that Dodge 2500 based monster.
I feel about those about how I feel about modern Buick cars ..
for very unimaginattive <polyster pants > people ...I wouldn't be caught
dead in one. And wouldn't drive one if paid..
no cache ..
no style...
no pretty tight family that goes with it .. ...no VW tradition ,
etc. etc.
and besides..
why would a poster ask us vanogonphilles about a non-vanagon vehicle ? and a
non-VW ,. non-german made one to boot.
Many of us, some anyway , are bound to say ..bah humbug ..barf ! etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul" <wognacious@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: camper conversion other than Volkswagen
You're on the wrong list. This place is for people who have Vanagons and
want to share Vanagon experiences, good and or bad, with each other. I come
to this place to be with my kind. I don't want to be led into temptation
with talk about other stuff out there you Judas. Go away, sell your Vanagon
and submit youself to the lifestlye of the "RV" people. Buy some bright
colored plaid polyester pants that go up to your armpits, let your nose and
ear hair grow out and toss out that fake grass stuff to put your lawn chair
on and mumble about those people in the VW bus type thing parked next to you
and the funny smelling cigaretts some of us smoke. But don't come here to
talk about whatever it is that you were talking about that pissed me off on
a Fryday night on the "VANAGON" list.
just venting but some of it was real,
Paul Rogers
proud owner of a 85 WWW
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Troy <colorworks@gci.net> wrote:
> I have read many times that there are no replacements for our beloved
> vanagon. I largely agree. I was looking at the T5, aka "CALIFORNIA", and
> in
> the comments one person mentioned how lucky we are in the US to have
> Roadtrek's. I really had never heard of Roadtrek, but a quick Google
> search
> revealed all kinds of information. This is basically a small class B.
> motorhome, er van conversion. These are built on either a Dodge 2500
> chassis, or the newer ones are on a Chevy 3500 chassis. They are 17 feet
> long (smallest) and about a foot wider than a vanagon.
>
> They had a 3 Cu.³ refrigerator (3 way), hot water heater, furnace,
> motorized fan in skylight, a toilet, indoor shower, tons of storage, 26
> gallon freshwater tank, graywater tank, black water tank, 8 pound propane
> capacity, and a generator which runs an air conditioner and microwave
> (yuck), but I may change my mind when it was 100° outside;) auxiliary
> battery, swivel seats, airbags, antilock brakes, and well a bunch of other
> things. They kind of remind me of an adventure wagon in some ways for
> height, but are a bit wider. You would need a 9 foot garage door to put
> them inside, as I think they are about 8 feet tall. Surprisingly, they
> get
> close to 20 miles to the gallon. Engine is a 318 V8.
>
> A brand-new one would set you back probably $85,000, but there are some
> very nice low mileage ones at under 30K and higher mileage ones at about
> 15K. Seems like all the complaints that we talk about with our westy are
> addressed in one of these. Yes, there are drawbacks too. About 9 inches
> of
> ground clearance versus about 11 for a vanagon, longer wheelbase, but
> still
> van size. The newer ones have limited slip differentials and
> four-wheel-drive options. Motorized seats, leather interiors, etc.
>
> I have only seen one of these in person and liked the layout. Does anyone
> have any comments good or bad about these? I know virtually nothing about
> them other than what's been mentioned above. An alternative to a westy?
> or
> junk?
>
> Troy
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