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Date:         Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:05:08 -0500
Reply-To:     mcneely4@COX.NET
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject:      Re: ADMINISTRIVIA [VANAGON] Friday mod discussion - language
Comments: To: Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <E790539A-D5D2-45EB-A733-106115FA8BD1@gmail.com>
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Jim, though those seem to be the only published rules, it is clear that the moderators mention from time to time other rules/policies, and that most adhere to those unpublished dicta. The two most prominent examples are "no cussin'," and "off topic allowed on Fridays." So, are those rules, or not? I thought they were.

mcneely

---- Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > The following is what EVERYONE received when they joined (except those > of us who have been here since lenti, of course.) You'll note that > there are no published "rules" but rather a discussion of list > etiquette. That is because we historically have felt that we are > civilized adults here. Civilized adults usually don't require "rules" > but rather operate according to the mores of the society they're in. > This is our attempt to codify those mores for the society known as > 'The Vanagon List.' > > If you all feel that this is insufficient, we will certainly entertain > changes. > > Jim Arnott > List Admin > vanagon@gerry > > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > You have been added to the vanagon mailing list (Vanagon & > EuroVan > discussion list) by Jim Arnott <jr.arnott@GMAIL.COM>. > > > Please SAVE THIS MESSAGE for future reference, especially if this is > the > first time you subscribe to an electronic mailing list. If you ever > need > to leave the list, you will find the necessary instructions > below. > Perhaps more importantly, saving a copy of this message (and of > all > future subscription notices from other mailing lists) in a special > mail > folder will give you instant access to the list of mailing lists that > you > are subscribed to. This may prove very useful the next time you go > on > vacation and need to leave the lists temporarily so as not to fill > up > your mailbox while you are away! You should also save the > "welcome > messages" from the list owners that you will occasionally receive > after > subscribing to a new list. > > For a lot of information about Vanagons and EuroVans, see the web > pages > at: > http://www.vanagon.com/ > > +-------------------+ > | List Etiquette | > +-------------------+ > > Due to the volume on the Vanagon list and the multigenerational nature > of > the discussions, it would be a great help if you would make the > subject > of your message explicit to what model(s) and year(s) or era of van > that > the message pertains to. For example: > > "Eurovan rear hatch won't latch" "91 Camper stove problem" > "87 Syncro Clutch Problems" "83-H20 engine temperature" > > Often messages refer to trips, tools or other general topics. These > types > of messages are of course meant for the whole list and a subject > without > a particular van type is expected. > > Fridays are a day when people do fun things on the list. These things > may > actually not be Vanagon related, but we strongly encourage it. > To > indicate that a posting is in fun and may not be of technical value, > you > should preface or suffix your subject with /f [f] or (F). Anyone > without > a sense of humor should delete these messages without reading them. > > The vanagon mailing list has been around for a while and its citizens > are > fairly net.savvy. Bear that in mind before you forward something to > the > list. In particular, please avoid the following: > o Messages containing cookie recipes. > o Craig Shergold or any kid dying of cancer who wants to live > forever in e-mail > o Forwarded messages with LOTS OF CAPITALS AND EXCLAMATION > POINTS!!!!! > o Any virus warning which says you can get a virus just by reading > an e-mail message, especially if the virus-carrying message always > has the same subject. > o Any virus warning already listed as a hoax at any of the following > sites: > > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html > http://www.kumite.com/myths/ > > o The Internet AIDS Infection Experiment or any Internet Experiment > > o Why Computers Are Like Men/Women > o Petitions > o Good-luck charms > o Any Chain Letter, especially if it's already listed at: > > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html > > o Dire warnings or actions alerts like Save Sesame Street!, Kidney > Thieves, Airport laptop thieves, 806 pager scams, FCC Internet > Tax, > Lexis-Nexis P-Trax database, rec.music.white-power, etc. > Basically, > anything telling the whole world to send e-mail somewhere or take > some action, but doesn't tell you what day (and year) to stop. > Stop forwarding hysteria! > o Content-free ping tests > o Messages with more forwards than actual text > o Posting private email to the whole list without permission > o A reply to a previous Vanagon list posting, quoting all six > hundred lines, when all you wanted to do was respond to the last > three > > Sending this sort of thing to the Vanagon list will make you look > like a > novice, and will bring the administrator's sarcasm crashing down > upon > your head. > > In order to defeat spammers, the roster of subscribers for this > mailing > list is generally not available. If you have a legitimate requirement > to > see the roster, write to one of the list > owners > (vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM). > > Please refrain from profanity or pushing other's buttons on the list. > We > try very hard to get along. Censorship will be enacted for those > unable > to control themselves. Thanks for your cooperation. > > +--------------------------------+ > | Sending mail to the list | > +--------------------------------+ > > To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the > list, > just send mail to > vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > This is called "sending mail to the list", because you send mail > to a > single address and ListServ makes copies for all the people who > have > subscribed. This address 'vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM' is also called > the > 'list address'. You must never try to send any command to that > address, > as it would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. > All > commands must be sent to the 'ListServ > address', > LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. It is very important to understand > the > difference between the two, but fortunately it is not complicated. > The > ListServ address is like a FAX number that connects you to a > machine, > whereas the list address is like a normal voice line connecting you > to a > person. > > +----------------------+ > | Leaving the list | > +---------------------+ > > You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF vanagon" > command > to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. > > +--------------------------------------+ > | Getting acknowledgements | > +--------------------------------------+ > > You can also tell ListServ how you want it to confirm the receipt > of > messages you send to the list. By default, new users are sent copies > of > the messages they send to the list. 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You can then order these files with a > "GET > vanagon LOGxxxx" command, or using ListServ's database search > facilities. > Send an "INFO DATABASE" command for more information on the latter. > > Web archives are available at: > http://gerry.vanagon.com/archives/vanagon.html > > +------------+ > | Digests | > +------------+ > > This list is available in digest form. If you wish to receive > the > digested version of the postings, just issue a SET vanagon > DIGEST > command. > > +------------------------------------+ > | More ListServ commands | > +------------------------------------+ > > More information on ListServ commands can be found in the > ListServ > reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO > REFCARD" > command to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. > > Enjoy the list! > TomC & JimA > (the Administrators)

-- David McNeely


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