Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:31:37 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Newbee question
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hi Phil.
I don't find that to be a factor really.
Mostly..........once I get them running regularly with good clean oil in
them ..
hyd lifter clatter rarely happens.
what will cause lifter clatter is ..
just old and gummed up.
and this one ..
very short periods of operation ..
like start up the van, move it 100 feet, shut it off.
do that 3 times and sometimes that will make them clatter for a while.
in all cases, regardless of oil type ..
if they tend to clatter...add a hyd lifter cleaner additive ..
CD-2 is one brand. Get it at a FLAPS.
there are always few to choose from.
I personally would not make that generalization about non-synthetic versus
synthetic oil and hyd lifters..
or 'maybe sometimes sorta' at the most. .
I've had lifters take months to get and stay consistently quiet on an old
gummed up engine.
there is an adjustment too, but normally you never mess with that.
in rare cases ....the rocker arms or push rods get messed up , bent, worn
etc.
but that's pretty rare.
for really persistent hyd lifter noise I'd check rocker arms, push rods and
adjustments.
it is possibly to replace a lifter that is genuinely damaged without
removing the head.
99.99 % of the time ..
it's just a matter of getting them clean again.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil" <mypactor@PACBELL.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Newbee question
> Good question. I should have said more. There are some that claim that
> there is less valve clatter with synthetic oil than regular dino oil.
>
> Anyone care to comment?
>
> Thanks, Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:22 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Newbee question
>
> re
> but if you're not having any problems with a less expensive oil, why would
> you switch to the more expensive Mobil 1?
>
> Unless you are sending out an oil sample once in a while for analysis, you
> really don't have a solid idea on how much wear is occurring in the engine
> over time.
> just because it doesn't leak or use oil..
> that does not mean wear isn't occurring ..
> and depending on use of course..
> say very hot running in the summer with heavy load up long grades ..
> that can increase wear for sure ..a synthetic would be much better in such
> conditions.
>
> so can lots of short cold trips cause wear ..badly even.
> so can just sitting around with condensation building up in the oil, which
> isn't good for the internals of the engine.
>
> 'generally' ..
> better more expensive oil will protect better than less expensive oil.
>
> so I would say ..
> for a low miles 89 Wolfsburg with a tight strong engine that doesn't use
> oil or leak ..
> something like Mobil 1 15W50 is a good investment.
>
> I don't find that waterboxer engines tend to use oil anyway, generally
> speaking.
> Sure not known as 'oil burners' at all I'd say ..
> they may be 'head gasket eaters' ...but they sure do not tend to be oil
> burners at all in my experience.
>
> so if they have good life left in them yet ...........they are worthy of
> very good oil.
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Newbee question
>
>
>> ---- Phil <mypactor@PACBELL.NET> wrote:
>>> I have an '89 Wolfie with 73,000 miles on it. Would there be a problem
>>> if I
>>> used, say, Mobil 1?
>>
>> Phil, that depends on the Mobil 1. I'd use Mobil 1, 15W50, but nothing
>> lighter. but if you're not having any problems with a less expensive
>> oil,
>> why would you switch to the more expensive Mobil 1?
>>
>> mcneely
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I use Castrol 20-50 in it now and have had no problems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Phil in Bakersfield, CA
>>
>> --
>> David McNeely
