Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 21:05:00 -0400
Reply-To: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
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From: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: CV Joints (as long as we are discussing it)
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My '87's boots were just going bad this year; 24 yrs old!
I put new boots, clean/ inspected/ re-greased/ re-located all 4 CV's,
replaced 6-point bolts with new 12-point bolts and painted the axle shafts.
Should be good to go for 25 more years!
BTW, just sticky lube in split boots won't keep the water and dirt out of
the CV's, so no, not good enuf!
Mike B.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:33 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: CV Joints (as long as we are discussing it)
hi Jeff,
thanks for the warning.
no leather CV joints on any vanagons I see or work on.
I have been doing it this way for about, at least 12 years, on many dozens
of CV joints ..
never an issue.
and there's *another* great thing about vanagons ..
really good CV joint boots !
I don't even consider them a 'regular failure item' .
I have vanagons with CV joint boots on them that could be 15 or more years
old.
( actually, I mix Amor-all in with the grease I use to treat the inside of
the rubber CV joint - just joking. )
back in the VW days of the swing axle ..those boots were constantly
splitting and failing ..
like 5 or 6 years or so, and they'd be going south, but not vanagon cv
boots.
btw ..another unofficial trick ..
this is cheating ...but ...you can keep a CV joint with a shot boot alive
for years and years by just squirting some sticky motorcycle chain lube into
the cv joint a couple times a year.
They're pretty difficult to deal with on a 70's era Mercedes Benz car.
I have on CV boot on a 41 year old 1970 model that I first noticed was split
about 20 years ago. Just trea tit with the ole sticky motorcycle chain
pentrating spray grease once in a while ....still runnin' just fine.
Of course we actuall 'fix' our vanagons properly ! ..........but if a
person doesn't have the time or the $ in the short term ..
it's better than doing nothing, that's for sure. Just so it gets lubed. Even
if CV joints have noticeable play and wear in them ........if kept lubed
well enough ....they can work just fine for quite a while yet. Not that I
recommend that for a major journey, but around town .........just as long as
they are lubed half-nicely, they'll do pretty well.
I normally upgrade to the better 12 point CV joint screws, they're made
of harder material it feels, and it's very rare for one to strip out
...where the 6mm allen ones do very easily.
Last tip ...
When going to remove CV joint screws *always* give them a sharp whack with a
drift and hammer to 'wake up' the threads so they can unscrew easier, before
trying to unscrew them. . It has considerable affect ...so much so that if
you feel the allen part is gong to strip out ..give it 6 more sharp whacks,
then try again. If it still feels like it's going to strip out ...6 more
whacks ..
even if you do that five times in a row. The affect is signficant, in
helping them to unscrew cleanly.
Some you just have to unscrew with a cold chisel though, the really, really
stuck ones.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Schwaia" <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: CV Joints (as long as we are discussing it)
> Be careful about overfilling the CV boots. The grease expands and
> contracts
> due to temperature and will prematurely wear out you boots (or pop them!).
>
> Back in my racing days, we put vents on the CV boots to help prevent them
> from popping during the race.
>
> Of course we were also running leather CV boots and micro stubs with 22"
> of
> travel...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:56 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: CV Joints (as long as we are discussing it)
>
> after reading this I checked to see how much I really put in.
> Thought maybe I had overstated how much I put in.
>
> I do get about 3 CV joints well full of grease from almost two full 14 oz
> 'grease gun' tubes of Moly-graph.
>
> then I got out a small package of grease that came with a Lobro Boot Kit
> ..
> and it's 90 grams or 3.17 oz.
> and it sure looks like not nearly enough to me .
> Especially on a dry brand new CV joint ..
> I problaby put in 3 times that much ...up to 9 oz.. at least 6 to 7 oz.
>
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: CV Joints (as long as we are discussing it)
>
>
>> At 11:27 AM 4/19/2011, Steven Johnson wrote:
>>>like to know what is the best grease to use for CVs?
>>
>> CV joint grease. Really. However VW later revised their spec to put
>> in more than the 90 gram tube, more like 120 grams IIRC.
>>
>> Yrs,
>> d
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