Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:13:21 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Buying a Van - Parts in L.A.
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dear dan an new guy
why replace a part known to fail with a part that may fail when
passing strait through hose will eliminate possibility of failure
that is the point of the R & not R of the firestarter part ... this is not
simply remove and replace but remove and use redesign
regards
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@verizon.net>wrote:
> Uh Oh! Dissenting opinions! Maybe I should just fabricate my own out of
> brass - that way I get the best of both worlds! From the looks of the part
> it'll take me about an hour to make...
>
>
> Dan
> Los Angeles, CA
> '85 Westy Weekender
>
> On Apr 25, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Roger Whittaker wrote:
>
> dear dan the van guy
>>
>> if i may be so bold as to say .... do not get the steel rplacemt piece ...
>> why replace a plastic piece with a piece that will degrade with rust
>> just run the hose through the fire wall with a grommet or fire hose to
>> protect the worry point and secure with zap ties
>> see you
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@verizon.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> Roger -
>>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up - I'll pick up a steel "firestarter" and some
>>> extra
>>> hose and clamps when I purchase the kit. I was looking at the kits last
>>> night, and you're right, they don't allow for errors.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>> '85 Westy Weekender
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Roger Whittaker wrote:
>>>
>>> dear dan new van
>>>
>>>>
>>>> i saw you said you looked at fuel lines but you made no mention of the
>>>> fire
>>>> starter piece having been replaced
>>>> this replacement is essential to your long term trouble free enjoyment
>>>> of
>>>> same
>>>> this can not be emphasized enough
>>>> this part needs to be replaced ASAP
>>>>
>>>> this is a link to an image of the part located right were the fuel line
>>>> passes through the firewall into the engine bay
>>>> *http://preview.tinyurl.com/3jp4djn*
>>>>
>>>> many kits come with a new version of the plastic OEM ...in my opinion it
>>>> is
>>>> silly to replace a defective idea with a different version of the same
>>>> thing
>>>> ... simply run fuel supply line right from pressure side of filter all
>>>> the
>>>> way along gear box as per OEM then through the grommet or piece of 5/8
>>>> heater hose set in the hole in the fire wall ... the hole made by the
>>>> removal of the offending OEM part ... continue hose to distribution
>>>> feeder
>>>> manifold ...
>>>>
>>>> if you buy the replacement kit from gowesty or another supplier you will
>>>> or
>>>> may require a few more of those ear clamps --cause you will wreck a
>>>> couple
>>>> due to squeezing them in place in the wrong place or out of order during
>>>> R
>>>> &
>>>> R ... also i covered my replacement supply line with 5/8 heater hose
>>>> with
>>>> from the firewall to each injector to give some protection from the heat
>>>> of
>>>> the engine wearing the integrity of the fuel supply line ... i also used
>>>> some extra high pressure supply line... before i started the project i
>>>> bought an extra 10 feet in case i errored and i errored twice in the R &
>>>> R
>>>> ... so had to remove the mistake and replace with new line... the kit
>>>> from
>>>> gowesty is exactly what is required by a skilled professional and is not
>>>> forgiving of mistakes ... the whole thing took me 4 hours on my back in
>>>> the
>>>> driveway of another vanagon owner who was kind enough to lend me
>>>> assistance
>>>> when needed and especially his driveway as we were a long way from home
>>>> and
>>>> in Chico cali (thanks peter)
>>>> vancafe or other supplier of this item may supply extra hose for those
>>>> of
>>>> us
>>>> who learn by mistake as they go ...i have no idea
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Daniel Rotblatt <
>>>> d.rotblatt@verizon.net
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob and others,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the link to roadhaus - I just went over their list of
>>>>> local mechanics and found some potentially good ones near me.
>>>>> There's also a guy really close to me who, though not a VW
>>>>> specialist, is an excellent mechanic (and a true character). I do
>>>>> want to bring my Van in to a good mechanic who knows vanagons just to
>>>>> get a safety check, and overview on any mechanical work that needs to
>>>>> be done by someone who knows the idiosyncrasies of an '85 vanagon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A suggestion: change your mind set, or thinking about your "new"
>>>>>
>>>>> vehicle. You talk about maintaining it as though it's NOT a 20-
>>>>>> something y/o vehicle that not many current shops will be willing to
>>>>>> work on, and CERTAINLY not any VW dealerships, with only
>>>>>> very rare exceptions. There are, for example, no VW dealerships
>>>>>> in the city I live in that will consider working on, even an oil
>>>>>> change,
>>>>>> for a vanagon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hear you all on the dealerships. My other "classic" (a '66 triumph
>>>>> spitfire) has no dealerships since triumph is defunct, so I'm used to
>>>>> (and prefer) doing it myself. I didn't really expect VW to want to
>>>>> deal with it, and I've never liked taking cars to dealerships except
>>>>> when on warranty. Just checkin the possibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for the responses everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> L.A., CA
>>>>> '85 Westy Weekender
>>>>>
>>>>> PS - On a side note: I did check the gas lines - most look good, but
>>>>> I will replace since it's obvious they haven't been in the last few
>>>>> years. They are scary - sitting right over the exhaust
>>>>> pipes.... :^O A little design issue there. I'm surprised they
>>>>> aren't metal tubes over the engine with a rubber one going to the gas
>>>>> tank to take the vibrations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> roger w
>> From Proverbs:
>> Under three things the earth trembles, under four it cannot bear up: a
>> servant who becomes king ...
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>
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