Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:54:27 -0500
Reply-To: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
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From: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Won't start (tries) (coughs)
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Scott,
You have mentioned many times the issue of the necessity of lubrication
of all the moving parts on a Vanagon to ensure long life and smooth
running. My issue for the moment is how to lubricate the clutch and
brake arms pivot points under the dash. Any suggestions short of taking
the dash completely out to get to it??? That is what Allistair did, but
having never done it myself, it will be a challenge if that is the way I
have to go.
Thanks.
John
John Rodgers
Clayartist and Moldmaker
88'GL VW Bus Driver
Chelsea, AL
Http://www.moldhaus.com
On 5/3/2011 1:06 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> could be so many things.
> has any testing or diagnosis been done at all ?
>
> say ..
> has the fuel filter been checked , or ...not likely to be a problem, but
> fuel pressure ?
>
> I'd test for a fat spark coming out of the coil while cranking,
> and investigate / test/replace Temp Sensor II.
>
> the list of things to actually consider or check is pretty long really.
> besides tired components like say ...spark plug wires, hall sender in
> distributor ..
> idle switch not making contact ................shorted oxygen sensor (
> rare ) ....
> there's ground connections, air leaks, and many things to consider.
>
> if it's like most of the vanagons I see ...
> they have not gotten TRULY good care and attention over the last say 15
> years..
> they are 25 years old...the first 10 years things will be ok..
> has they get older..
> really ...what most shops or people consider a 'tune-up'
> ............mainly
> things like cap and rotor and spark plugs and air and fuel filter say ..
> that barely addresses what really gets tired and weak on them.
> I see LOTS of parts replaced on these old babies ..
> but seldom do I see many of them that are truly, truly taken care of and
> really cleaned, serviced, adjusted, and so on ....all the details that
> add
> up.
> I spend a lot of time correcting and treating corrosion, and lack of
> attention to the finer details. Heck ..the tune up parts themselves
> barely
> wear. Those are not the 'weak area' at all. If there's a weak area
> it's lack
> of attention to details that add up ..
> and so often ...it's related to corrosion, or lack of attention to
> very small details in many spots. Also ..not-perfect workmanship ..I
> see a
> lot of that. I could almost say, the two main areas I work in to get
> vanagons to work truly right again....are about corrosion and correcting
> previously done poor workmanship. I should log all that someday and
> categorize it. Very often it's not even 'a part' or a component, it's
> just straightening out overlooked details. I can typically find up to 10
> details not right on many waterboxer engines, affecting how the start,
> idle,
> and run. Not even big expensive parts.....mainly details that have
> not been
> attended to properly over the years.
> Someone needs to do some careful inspecting and testing on your engine.
> Some intelligent inspecting and testing, not just throwing tune up
> parts at
> it.
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andree" <andreehurley@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:14 AM
> Subject: Won't start (tries) (coughs)
>
>
>> My van has had an early morning issue - quite different from the hot
>> start
>> issue
>> it was having.
>>
>> It tries to turn over, then coughs and dies. It's been running rough in
>> the
>> morning until it warms up, but now it just won't start.
>>
>>
>> If you keep the key turned, it goes in cycles (if that makes any
>> sense).
>>
>> Any ideas? We tried jumping, just for the heck of it. It has gas.
>>
>> It's a 1985.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andree
>
>
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