Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 16:24:26 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Tire question
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it's an 87 syncro.
taller R & P is an expensive deal since there are two of them that have to
match on a syncro van. of course .
That could get into some real big bucks.
rather a moot point if not knowing what engine is going to be pushing the
van .
or for what use you want it to be best at.
Many people on here play chess ?
it's super good training about 'strategic order' of going about things.
you wouldn't say ....................... ..
deploy your Bishops out to protect your King if your own defensives are
not set up first..
And for every planned action ..
you have to be totally preparred for whatever outcome that causes ..
There's big cost in not planning well ahead.
it's the same in engine conversions to vanagons.
Especially with syncro's ..those need all the careful planning they can get.
to come out really right in the end.
and ..
if people have not experienced the wrong gear ratios ..
or more importantly ..gear ratio gap ..
like you get where there just is not a comfortable rpm and power and gear at
say 50 to 55 mph ..
one gear is too low, the next too high ..
that sucks , driving a van with that characteristic. Sucks big time. Want
to be careful you don't get something like that changing gearing and gear
ratios.
scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Tire question
> If you could fit tires that big under your van, which you can't, you'd
> find
> yourself with seriously under-performing brakes and you'd probably have to
> fry the clutch getting it underway too... A taller third and fourth is a
> more intelligent solution, along with a taller R&P.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller@cwnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Right now the hope is for a TDI. Price of the labor for conversion is the
>> same, about, for either a TD or a TDI and I've had a TDI and liked it.
>>
>> I guess the Tire Rack would know this, and then I can calculate the
>> percent
>> change in rpm. The gearing change is 25% and I kind of doubt tires can
>> make
>> that much difference but maybe?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/11 2:43 PM, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans"
>> <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > hi ..
>> > 'which diesel' engine is a factor...
>> >
>> > a strong running tdi ?
>> > or a conventional pre-chamber style engine ...1.9 TD at least I would
>> > expect ?
>> >
>> > if running a conventional pre-chamber TD engine ..
>> > those are 5,000 rpm engines .........and more or less like the stock
>> syncro
>> > gearing.,
>> >
>> > on the other hand ...a tdi will have more power at lower rpm, and for
>> those
>> > you want higher gearing for sure in 3rd and 4th.
>> >
>> > depending on how wild you want to get, some pretty large and tall 15
>> > inch
>> > tires will fit on your syncro van.
>> > If the trans does not need rebuilding current..
>> > the less expensive route for now is to play with 'rubber gearing'
>> > improvements.
>> >
>> > for a stock 75 hp 1.9 TD AAZ engine ..
>> > stock syncro gearing could be all right .................and it depends
>> on
>> > *what use* you have in mind ..
>> > from dead slow rock crawling, to mud prowess, to highway cruising..
>> > that needs to be spoken to also, for people to be able to make
>> intelligent
>> > comments about gearing and tire changes.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Mike Miller" <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
>> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:13 PM
>> > Subject: FW: Tire question
>> >
>> >
>> >> Subject: Tire question
>> >>
>> >> Vanaroonies,
>> >>
>> >> I feel the list has been too quiet lately so I thought I'd bring up a
>> tire
>> >> question.
>> >>
>> >> Converting a van, 87 syncro, to diesel [if the money falls from
>> >> heaven,
>> >> that
>> >> is]. The advice is to change 3rd and 4th so that the diesel operates
>> >> in
>> >> the
>> >> right rev range on the highway.
>> >>
>> >> This will increase the gap between 2 and 3, which is already too large
>> >> really.
>> >>
>> >> So I wondered how much the revs could be decreased at highway speeds
>> [and
>> >> all others] using the tallest tires? I have 15" rims and since it's a
>> >> syncro
>> >> and a westy I need Light truck tires.
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> Flame suit on
>> >>
>> >> ------ End of Forwarded Message
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
>
> 1984 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX - 'The Grey Van'
> 1986 Westy Weekender/2.5 SOHC Subie - 'Dixie'
>
> Crescent Beach, BC
>
> www.thebassspa.com
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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