Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 19:36:22 -0400
Reply-To: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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From: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: Overfilling the oil issues
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Thanks Dennis. I am really hoping that's its nothing but tomorrow will be the true test.
I am dreading this. The engines a year old! This should not be happening. I baby the crap out of it. I am not looking forward to the conversation with rebuilder.
Thanks again.
Rob
On May 25, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> Engine warm but wait at least 5 minutes for the oil to drain back down from
> the heads and top of the crankcase.
>
> However if you see oil from between the engine and tranny and it is
> substantial something (engine or tranny),will have to come out to fix it.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Robert Stewart
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:08 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Overfilling the oil issues
>
> Yeah I am seeing oil coming from between the flywheel on the engine and
> automatic tranny connection.
>
> The just washed the vans engine off with water tomorrow in the morning I am
> going to put it on a my ramps and crawl under to see if it leaks over night.
> I will take some photos of it and then drive it and retake photos and get
> under it again.
>
> Fluid is suppose to be checked on level ground with the engine warm correct?
>
> Robert
>
> On May 24, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Edward Maglott wrote:
>
>> You don't even need to drain it to replace that O-ring for the governor
> cover. It seems odd that it is leaking there. I'm not sure but I think
> that is uncommon.
>>
>> If the engine oil is coming out of the openings between the engine and
> transmission, where the torque converter spins, I think the rear main seal
> is about the only thing in there that could be leaking. you could try
> cleaning that area so that you can see better where the leak is coming from.
> The seal on the torque converter can leak, but that would be ATF not engine
> oil.
>>
>> Good luck! Edward
>>
>> At 07:13 PM 5/24/2011, Robert Stewart wrote:
>>> Thanks Ed the thoughts.
>>>
>>> Yes what you are explaining the Governor Cover is where I see a lot of
> tranny fluid and it's slowly leaking downward. I assume to repair this I
> need to drain all the fluid out and then pop that off to add a new O Ring
> seal?
>>>
>>> I have been looking at the samba for over an hour, seems like a lot
> people have this rear main seal issue. I am not even sure that is where the
> oil is coming from but it's clearly leaking from above the engine and
> flowing down the backside of the engine casing. Could it be a oil sensor
> that has gone bad and is now leaking?
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Edward Maglott wrote:
>>>
>>>> That place on the tranny is the governor cover. Round cap with
>>>> metal band holding it. I believe there is also a vent directly
>>>> above that on top of the transmission. It is a nubbin with a loose
>>>> fitting but attached cap on it. Sometimes that will get clogged and
>>>> not properly vent air out of the tranny and cause fluid to be forced
>>>> our elsewhere. I wouldn't worry about a little leaking at the
>>>> governor cover, unless it is a symptom of larger issue. Also that
>>>> O-ring is pretty easy to replace with the tranny in the van.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming it is definitely engine oil coming from the area of joining
>>>> with the transmission, the rear main seal is the only thing I can
>>>> think of. I suppose with the overfilled situation, pressure might
>>>> have damaged that but it seems odd that that would be the weakest
>>>> point, as others more knowledgeable than I have pointed out.
>>>>
>>>> Yes mine has made me want to pull my hair too.
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>
>>
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