Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:23:39 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Anything like this for 1.9L?
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re 'heat sink.'
the stock ATF cooler transfers heat from the warming up coolant to the cooler ATF when first starting out.
Then, when things are hot ....heat is transferred from the hot ATF to the slightly cooler coolant.
Kinda stabilized the ATF temp somewhat that way.
Though I'm sure your dedicated air type oil cooler will cool the ATF better when it counts.
on your thermostat housing ..
where a main coolant hose joins on there.
You'll see two temp sensors screwed in.
the larger blue one with too wires talks to the ECU so the ecu knows engine coolant temp.
The other single wire smaller one talks to your dash temp gauge.
sounds like you're having a great time ..
have a great trip !
bring tire chains , lol.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rocket J Squirrel
To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Anything like this for 1.9L?
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 15:34 -0700, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
I'm not 'that worried' about the two hoses being joined in the short term.
sure .hot coolant bypasses the radiator, and don't really want that.
It would only be during summer climbing up long, hot grades that I'd start to question the wisdom of leaving that bypass open. Right now, no big deal. Besides, the normal ATF cooler setup is pretty much a bypass unless one considers the AT to be a heat sink . . . .
fwiw ...on Subaru-vanagons ....some coolant is always 'short circuited' in
the heater circuit, since Subaru unusually uses heater circuit flow for
t-stat sensing ( unlike all other makes of cars that I've ever seen ) ..
Yeah, BTW, where is the sender for the temp gauge located on the 1.9?
and it doesn't seem to hurt, having a little 'short circuit' going on there.
I've heard it mentioned more than once that the cooling system in the vanagon is more than sufficient, so I reckon the thermostat can open a bit more to compensate for the bypass.
if I just had to clamp off a hose .........and I don't really like doing
that to a hose at all,
I'd just use a medium size C clamp and two small pieces of plywood, or a
good temporary set up.
That feels a lot less risky than clamping the hose with the HF clamp's skinny wire!
-- BTW, the tip you gave about cutting a slit in the back end of the gas pedal housing worked out real good. Thanks, Scott! I really like the modified "ankle to throttle" ratio that the modified pedal relay lever provides.
-- RJS
(Who hopes to fix a non-op oil pressure switch and close off that coolant bypass before he heads out on Monday afternoon for a few days camping.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Anything like this for 1.9L?
>I was hoping to get under the van today and properly plug the hoses only
> it's freakin' snowing right now so if push comes to shove I may have to
> just pinch off the joined hoses with one of these HF clamps for my
> upcoming camping trip.
>
> Second to worse case: the clamp fails and I end up injecting hot coolant
> into the rad return, but the weather ain't hot.
>
> Worst case: the clamp cuts through the hose, coolant all over the road,
> engine overheats, billows of steam, AAA driver wraps tow line around
> steering tackle and destroys the front end, Mr Squirrel sinks into
> inconsolable depression, Mrs Squirrel gets fed up and leaves.
>
> Oops, wait -- nevermind. The sun just came out. Central Oregon, ya gotta
> love the weather!
>
> -- RJS
>
> On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 17:03 +0000, Marius Strom wrote:
>
>> I'm leaving mine joined until I can cap them properly. I wouldn't trust
>> those HF clamps on such a vital line on the car, especially with all
>> the vibration and such. If that clamp doesn't work, you're spilling
>> coolant.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of Rocket J Squirrel
>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:40 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Anything like this for 1.9L?
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 17:14 -0400, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>> > When removing the factory water cooled ATF cooler the hoses should be
>> > blocked, not joined. This will make it the same as the standard tranny
>> > systems.
>>
>> If I don't get a chance to cut the now-unused ATF cooler hoses to plug
>> and clamp them, these should work temporarily?
>>
>> <http://www.harborfreight.com/4-piece-fluid-line-clamp-set-65116.html>
>>
>> If not, what kind of clamp am I looking for?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -- RJS
>>
