Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 21:58:53 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: tie rod boots on '91 campmobile
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yes..
but you can just check the toe yourself with two yardsticks and get it darn
close.
there's another way too..
to replace the boots,
you unscrew the outer tie rod end, and mark and very carefully count turns,
and put it right back where it was, after installing the new steering rack
boots . That should put it right back where it was.
Then follow that up with checking the toe yourself with the yardstick
method.
And it's even good to check the toe before taking it apart, just to see if
it's about right in the first place.
check toe with suspension fully settled. Van has to roll a van length or
two after you let it back down to the ground.
You can also check camber with low tech methods,
And you can easily check that castor is the same on both sides. All with two
yard sticks, a level and a small ruler.
Van has to be on a level surface of course to use a level to check camber
and to check that castor is the same on both sides.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mcneely" <mcneely4@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: tie rod boots on '91 campmobile
Thanks to all who replied to this query. I'll get some boots for the tie
rod ends and get them installed, then. Will I have to realign the front end
afterward? I would think so.
BTW, the use of Beetle boots for this reminds me that we just installed
Jetta CV boots. This is getting to be a hybrid vehicle (though so far as I
know those are the only non-Vanagon parts it has).
mcneely
---- Daryl Christensen <daryl@AATRANSAXLE.COM> wrote:
> I used the Bug stuff on Vanagon's quite often thru the years..Tight fit,
> but
> works perfectly.
>
> Daryl of AA Transaxle
> 425-788-4070
> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Old Volks Home
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: tie rod boots on '91 campmobile
>
> Dave -
>
> I just took a look at the boot and compared with both the Beetle and
> Vanagon (German Lemforder) tie rod end and boot and I really see no
> difference. The center hole starts small on the boot but should
> expand with the tapered end as it is shoved down, rubber is pretty
> pliable.
> --
> Jim Thompson
> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
> 75 914 1.8 "Nancy"
> Full Timing Since March 1999
> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
> ***********************************
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Cracked boots will contribute to wearing the tie rod ends sooner.
> > Unfortunately, after checking both the fiche and ETKA, it appears VW
> > never offered the boots as a separately replaceable item - interesting
> > note though, it shows the wire ring that retains the boot to the tie
> > rods end and that is available (111 415 837). Since that is a Beetle
> > number, you might be able to use the corresponding boot (Beetle Late
> > 68-79, Bus to 79):
> >
> >
> http://www.airheadparts.com/vintage-vw-parts/tie-rod-ends/boot-tie-rod-end-1
> 13415835
> >
> > This is a great quality repro from VWG, much better than the thin
> > material of the original. Might be worth checking out.
> >
> > Only speculating, dunno if they would work, I'll have to compare the
> > boot to the assembly Airhead keeps in stock.
> > --
> > Jim Thompson
> > 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
> > 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
> > 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
> > 75 914 1.8 "Nancy"
> > Full Timing Since March 1999
> > oldvolkshome@gmail.com
> > http://www.oldvolkshome.com
> > ***********************************
> > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:
> >> are cracked. Mechanic said replace them when tie rod ends are bad and
> need replaced.
> >>
> >> So, (1) how do I know when the tie rod ends are bad, and (2) won't
> cracked boots contribute to them going bad sooner? Can I replace the boots
> only? There seems to be no problem with steering or suspension. I had the
> thing aligned last time I bought tires (20K miles ago), and the tech did
> not
> mention any difficulty with the alignment.
> >>
> >> I looked for tie rod end boots from a couple of vendors, but one had
> nothing relating to tie rods, and one had only a kit including the rest of
> the parts.
--
David McNeely
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