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Date:         Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:50:16 -0400
Reply-To:     Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Chris S <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Strange pattern of tach and motor dying(long)
Comments: To: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <4de5e1c1.029b2a0a.4fa8.165d@mx.google.com>
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First things I check when there's trouble is fuel and spark. Once I know which is the culprit I get a voltmeter and start checking for loose connections and lack of power where applicable.

Chris.

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Dnia Jun 1, 2011 o godz. 2:52 Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET> napisał(a):

> Folks: I have experienced a strange but semi predictable pattern of > engine mis-behaving twice now in the last two weeks and it's time to > find Mr. Wizzard and get some thoughts on its origin. The van is a > 90GL 246k on it. otor was a Boston Bob rebuild and has maybe 120k on > it. Compression is down to 110 in one cylinder and tyhe others are > in the 160 range. I do ohave that funky Haltec ECU system on the > motor, so that could be giving me trouble and I have to use a Bosch > ignitior wired in the system; it came fro ma junkyard like 10 years > ago off an old Rabbit or Sirrocco. > > Dead sequence number 1: Was driving in the rain on the highway and > the tach dropped out and the motor quit for like 2 seconds. We're > back with minimal speed loss. About 15 minutes later it repeats that > behavior and we lose a couple mph ands we're back going again. Then > maybe 15-20 minutes after that it quits and dies. Five minutes later > I try to start it, no luck, ten no luck, 15 no luck, so I open up the > hatch and start poking around. The only thing I see is one of the GM > style waterproof connectors with a rubber grommet loose and aI was > thinking water got in there and shorted something out. I also saw > some crusty stuff on the internals of the cap and rotor, so I > switched out another used cap and rotor I had with me, but much less > crusty than what was in there. At 30 minutes the engine started right > up and gave no further trouble for a week. 30 min. to dry out the > wiring seemed like a plausible scenario, so I didn't give it much > more thought. I poked the grommet back in place thinking I had > solved the issue with either the cap/rotor or the grommet.. > > Case Sequence #2.Last Thursday night I left for a long drive to > Duluth. Before I left town, the tach dies along with the motor,and 2 > sec. later it returns to life. About 20 miles out of town it repeats > that same behavior(2 seconds dead and back to life). About a half an > hour later in the middle of nowhere on Hwy 218 at 1AM, it totally > dies. Three attempts to start it this time failed,so I took a > nap. This second round of orneriness was NOT caused by rain or > moisture. At 20 minutes it wouldn't start so I went back in the hatch > and milled around wiggling wires etc. The grounds by the coil didn't > look corroded, so I was thinking maybe the coil(which wasn't THAT > old) or the Bosch ignitor might be the culprit, but not sure how to > test them. My Hall sender is maybe 4 or 5 years old too and the > plastic connector doesn't have any cracks in it. Regardless, it > started up again at the 30 minute mark and hasn't acted up since. > > If what I'm describing sounds like Vanagon Syndrome, I would agree > with you, but I'm using the Haltech, not Digifant. The Haltech has > been repaired once a few years ago, so I'm left wondering if it's a > flaky ground somewhere, or if this unique pattern is the sign of > something getting too hot to function properly and the 30 minutes of > rest gives it time to cool off and function properly. I drove the > van another 5-600 miles with no further incidents over the next 3 > days. I have a substantial heat sink on the ignitor. These sorts of > problems seem to not want to get fixed, but maybe this time it will > be the exception. > > Thanks in advance > > > DM&FS


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