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Date:         Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:12:23 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Thermostats [Was: Spooked!]
Comments: To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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Not complete loss. just partial, a gallon or so. a really large pan .. like 18 inches by 2 /12 feet is good to catch as much as you can. It's good to get old coolant out anyway. you never get all of the old out .. so freshening up a gallon or so's worth is good.

and ...running at 170 rather than 180 is is not in itself going to promote acids in the oil.. hardly ! it's the short cold trips that do that. Particularily in winter. About the worst thing you can do in the winter is use your van on only 3 mile short trips in town. Waterboxers don't warm up that fast either ....compared to some cars. I also think 1.9 wbxr's get to operating temp faster than 2.1's do .

don't leave the heater full on during the 'warming up while driving' period.. only half at the most. heater circuit is full time flow, in really cold conditions, and low load like going downhill.. with heater full on, it may never get up to temp.

and never 'sit there' idling the engine to 'warm it up.' That is extremely rough on engines, especially when it's very cold. Start it gently.. let 'er run a half minute or so , then drive gently for the first mile or two ( if you can ) ...the engine needs to be under load some to really warm up. I havn't bothered but I have various block and heater circuit 110AC plug in heaters .. I would do that in winter, just so the engine is that much closer to being warm when I fire it off.

scott www.turbovans.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 6:11 AM Subject: Re: Thermostats [Was: Spooked!]

>> Yep. David is right. Motor oil needs to be heated up to remove >> condenation >> and acids which if left in the crankcase will eat bearings and other >> surfaces. So if you run an engine at a lower temp you can harm it as much >> as if it were ran too hot-but maybe slower.Maybe you could over come this >> if you changed your oil and filter more often. But at what cost? >> Bill Witz 84 Westy > > > Lemme guess -- removal of the thermostat on the 1.9L will pretty much > mean complete loss of coolant? > > Jeez I hate making a mess on Mrs Squirrel's driveway. > > -- RJS


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