Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 12:34:36 -0700
Reply-To: Oxroad <oxroad@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Oxroad <oxroad@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: can't register my Vanagon, Calif madness, LVC
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For those non-Californians--
It's completely legal to drive in California with NO License plate on your
vehicle.
It's largely reserved for brand new cars where you don't get license plates
from the new car dealer and drive off the
lot with no license plate, no temporary plate, no nothin'.
You then wait for you license plate to arrive in the mail from DMV which
usually takes about 6 weeks. It's pretty much up to you when of if you put
them on the vehicle as it seems not to be a reason from police suspicion.
The thing is people drive illegally with no plates on their cars for years.
As you may have guessed a lot of crimes committed with the use of a car are
committed by vehicles with no plates.
"Yes officer it was a 2011 black Cadillac Escalate with no license plates."
"I'll put out an APB"
Joke is almost all 2011 Cadillacs and ever other brand have no license
plates. Good luck with the APB.
No plates saves the drivers from parking tickets, red light tickets, and
being identified if they decide to hit and run or commit a crime. And like I
said,
they run there cars for years this way at least in the LA area.
I've also seen plenty of used cars without plates. While in CA you sell the
license plates originally on the car with the car and the new owner
registers it with your "Old "plates, I guess if a car doesn't have CA plates
when it's sold it's OK to drive it while you wait for DMV to mail the
plates. Or if your plates are stolen you have to wait from the DMV to get it
together.
With the new and consistent budget crunch it may take even more time to get
your license plates. How's your cross country trip gonna go with no plates?
;)
It's a mess. Prop 13 in CA in the 1970s forbids the state from reassessing
your home, so you pay 1970s value property tax on your home until you sell
it. If you bought it in the '80s you're locked in there, in the 90's the
same and so on. You may be in a million dollar home but you pay taxes as if
it was worth $30K. Kind of stresses the budget, along with a lot of
mismanagement and graft.
But it rarely rains in SoCal.
Best,
Jeff
83.5 Westy
LA,CA
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> What if you lose your tag or it gets stolen? Oh, look, your tag is gone
> (quickly, hide it!). Someone must have STOLEN it. Oh D-A-R-N, now you have
> to get a NEW one immediately!
>
> Chris.
>
> Wysłane z iPhone'a
>
> Dnia Jun 10, 2011 o godz. 21:47 mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET>
> napisał(a):
>
> > My tags will expire in a few weeks so I have been wondering where my
> > registration renewal notice is. They always come a couple months in
> > advance. I just found out that the State of California is not accepting
> > payment for tags due in July and August since they hope the legislature
> > will soon raise the fees above what they are currently due to be.
> >
> > I'm not so concerned about the amount that I will pay as much as I am
> > with the disorderly conduct of the State in putting it's citizens in a
> > bind for such trivial reasons. Calif says late fees and expired tag
> > violations will be waived but what effect does that have on other
> > jurisdictions for those of us who plan summer travel in our vans? Really
> > Officer, I wanted new tags but the government wouldn't sell them to me
> > before I left. At the very least this provides probable cause for
> > stopping me that otherwise might not exist.
> >
> > They should just let me pay the amount that is currently authorized and
> > then send a bill for any extra should that occur.
> >
> >
> > Mark
>